I broke my Dillon Super 1050 Big Time

[DDRanch]

A big ouch! I was processing some 308 on my Dillon Super 1050 today and the I broke the Link Arm. $220.00 for the part.
Now to need to clean things up.

 

[smoooth]

Bummer! Thought Dillon had a lifetime warranty?

 

[Tommie]

Wow. Kinda surprised Dillon won’t make good.

 

[jghoghunter]

The 1050 and the newest one are not covered under their lifetime warranty program. They are considered commercial machines.

 

[Geronimo Jim]

Great big muscle on right arm? Enough lube?

 

[Minshooter]

Looks to me like another MIM part.

Anyone know for sure?

The several people I know who own those machines are definitely not commercial loaders.

I've personally broken two of the lower link castings on 550's. Dillion replaced both -no questions.

 

[BuffaloBill]

I don’t think the mfg should expect the owner to pay for that kind of failure, regardless of what they put in print. Hopefully they just replace it.

 

[jghoghunter]

I don’t think the mfg should expect the owner to pay for that kind of failure, regardless of what they put in print. Hopefully they just replace it.

Looks to me like another MIM part.

Anyone know for sure?

The several people I know who own those machines are definitely not commercial loaders.

I've personally broken two of the lower link castings on 550's. Dillion replaced both -no questions.

I agree they should replace it and they may replace it. I also know for sure that they are considered commercial machines and are not covered under their lifetime warranty. I've had four of them and when they break you pay to fix them and that's their reasoning. I'm not a commercial reloader either. I wouldn't have said that if I didn't know for sure.

 

[lb-ft]

That part looks like it was outsourced to the lowest bidder.

 

[Hoser]

That part is a known failure part on the Super 1050. I broke one several years ago, but mine had been hooked up to an autodrive. Just in case I ordered a spare.

The part itself is one big chunk of machined billet.

I am using 1100s now to get away from that part. But the handle throw on a 1100 is slightly longer.

 

[SeabeeKen]

I don’t think the mfg should expect the owner to pay for that kind of failure, regardless of what they put in print. Hopefully they just replace it.

RCBS replaces parts no questions asked IME. Perhaps dillon should take a page from their book. For the cost of a dillon they all should be lifetime. Glad I never bought one

 

[Minshooter]

I agree they should replace it and they may replace it. I also know for sure that they are considered commercial machines and are not covered under their lifetime warranty. I've had four of them and when they break you pay to fix them and that's their reasoning. I'm not a commercial reloader either. I wouldn't have said that if I didn't know for sure.

Sorry if I didn't make it clear that I was only asking if anyone knew for sure -if that was a MIM part.

A Dillon rep once told me they were getting their older (Pre-1050) machines back from some commercial reloading firms every few years, and doing complete rebuilds -over and over, at no charge to those firms, but considerable expense to Dillon. They finally and reluctantly had to stop doing that. Nobody gives Dillon free parts when their Company machinery breaks.

I own only their "Consumer/Hobby" level machines, and have had four decades of nothing but outstanding (And free) support from Dillon.

(That said, the metallurgy used in that broken link seems to be clearly insufficient).

 

[Webster]

A big ouch! I was processing some 308 on my Dillon Super 1050 today and the I broke the Link Arm. $220.00 for the part.
Now to need to clean things up.

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Looks like it's poorly designed. Cast iron is brittle and fractures easily. Not much metal around the holes. It broke at the thinnest cross-section. If there is pressure pushing the two pin holes towards each other , the part would tend to bend where the fracture occured. I would try to get someone to machine the part from a wrought steel. A simple rectangular piece of steel with 2 holes should work. No fancy contours needed unless there is a clearance problem with other parts. Someone else on the website said they broke 2. Just noticed it looks like a channel at the pin holes where another part fits inside. This further reduces the strength of the pin area.

 

[LVLAaron]

The 1050 and the newest one are not covered under their lifetime warranty program. They are considered commercial machines.

I would still call them and whine about it, if it's being used at home, non commercial.

 

[hogpatrol]

Is there an aftermarket part in better or possibly thicker material? I don't own one and it's somewhat difficult to see but it doesn't look like any pure or alloy metal. It looks like sintered iron, cast or pot metal.

 

[DDRanch]

Unfortionaly I been using this press to process mostly brass to pay for my toys.
I broke it proceesing 308 brass for my 1919-A4
Have not as yet seen a after market repacement.

 

[k260]

RCBS replaces parts no questions asked IME. Perhaps dillon should take a page from their book. For the cost of a dillon they all should be lifetime. Glad I never bought one

Dillon's "No BS" warranty is pretty much what built the company but, as stated above, the Super 1050 is considered their commercial machine and does not carry that warranty.

 

[V509]

So all of this is about one broken piece? Correct? I am sure Dillon will be able to get you one in a timely fashion. And the price is relevant to the overall cost of the machine, so it really is not horrible.

 

[Hoser]

Looks like it's poorly designed. Cast iron is brittle and fractures easily.

It is machined aluminum, not a cast iron part.

That part is very strong, but they can break.

Dillon is 100% up front that the 1050 and 1100 machines are not covered by a lifetime warranty. They have always taken care of my on the small 1050/1100 parts even when it was my fault that it broke. But a big part like this, I did get the bill and happily paid it.

 

[M-61]

RCBS A-4 link. I can’t imagine it breaking.
I know nothing about Dillon but I assume this is a similar part