Howa 1500 223 -

[Ado10]

Hi all,
Couldn’t see if this has been asked before.

I have a Howa 1500SA 223 24” varmint in a standard Hogues stock.
I am new to reloading and about to purchase my first projectiles to start. My question is if the 75g Hornady ELD Match will fit into Hogues internal Box mag. I have looked at the Hornady load data which indicated a COL of 2.390. I’ve attempted to measure the internal mag but can’t get a definitive reading.

Has anyone successfully loaded the 75g to fit in the mag or will I be stuck with single loading.

TIA.

 

[JB10]

Id go with the 73 eldm just in case. Just depends on ur freebore and what the mag oal will allow. I went with the 73 in a savage

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

Make up a dummy rd (no powder or primer) start long seat deeper until it fits mag. That's your max length, of course that may not be the best(most accurate seating depth).

 

[Mark M.]

Hi all,
Couldn’t see if this has been asked before.

I have a Howa 1500SA 223 24” varmint in a standard Hogues stock.
I am new to reloading and about to purchase my first projectiles to start. My question is if the 75g Hornady ELD Match will fit into Hogues internal Box mag. I have looked at the Hornady load data which indicated a COL of 2.390. I’ve attempted to measure the box mag but can’t get a definitive reading.

Has anyone successfully loaded the 75g to fit in the mag or will I be stuck with single loading.

TIA.

Isn't the barrel on your Howa a 12 twist?

 

[Ado10]

Isn't the barrel on your Howa a 12 twist?

1:8 twist

 

[Ado10]

Make up a dummy rd (no powder or primer) start long seat deeper until it fits mag. That's your max length, of course that may not be the best(most accurate seating depth).

Was hoping to avoid purchasing if it wasn’t going to suit. Average of $70/100 and low availability of options make life difficult.

 

[qldreloader]

Send me a PM with your details and I'll send you a 75gr ELD-M to make a dummy round with. I'm also in Qld.

 

[Ado10]

Send me a PM with your details and I'll send you a 75gr ELD-M to make a dummy round with. I'm also in Qld.

Thanks for the offer. I have just managed to find a club member offering the same. Really appreciate it

 

[jlorenzo]

Also might be worthwile finding the lands. Although the one Howa (308) I have has a long throat, much longer than mag length to touch the lands. Still worth checking out. I imagine you could load the 75 to 2.39 though.

 

[qldreloader]

Thanks for the offer. I have just managed to find a club member offering the same. Really appreciate it

Excellent. They shoot fine out of my Tikkas with 1:8 twists but not as well as the 80gr Nosler Custom Comps or Sierra Matchings.

 

[jpjulian]

Be thankful your Howa is an 8 twist. My Howa built Vanguard .223 is a 14 twist, and a skinny 14 twist at that. It won't shoot anything heavier than a 55 grain and it really doesn't like 55's all that much.

 

[fkimble@charter.net]

The Hornady 75 BTHP are designed to be seated to AR mag length. They shoot great across the course seated very deep.

FRank

 

[K22]

Be thankful your Howa is an 8 twist. My Howa built Vanguard .223 is a 14 twist, and a skinny 14 twist at that. It won't shoot anything heavier than a 55 grain and it really doesn't like 55's all that much.

Try the Sierra 50 grain Blitz bullet - this worked really well in my 14" twist 222 with IMR 4198.

 

[K22]

In my 8" twist Tikka's, the 60 Vmax's shoot extremely well with Varget and H4895.

 

[akajun]

The Hornady 75 BTHP are designed to be seated to AR mag length. They shoot great across the course seated very deep.

FRank

Yup
Hornady 75’s
Sierra/nosler/berger 77’s
Good to 600 yds from the mag in an Ar
Easy to get to shoot
Lots of load data for different powders

That said if you want to shoot long bullets and your gun is a short action 1500 and not a mini
The short action has a mag spacer
Take the mag spacer out and put a full length follower in it or modify it

If it’s a mini action your stuck with AR mag length

 

[joshb]

Why can’t you just pull the gun apart and measure the box?

 

[harro]

I have a Howa .223
My advice is try Sierra 77gn TMK , or Hornady 73gn eldm
Load them to maximum Magazine lenght , choose your powder and load some test samples going up in 0.2 gn increases from about middle of the powder manufacturers recommended load data .
Watch carefully for signs of pressure and see what load shoots the best out of your initial testing .
Unless you are extremely lucky as a first time reloader , you won’t find the “ Holy Grail “ load straight away , but it will give you some hints as to which direction to go from there .

 

[Bluefink4895]

As mentioned by others - 69's, 75's, & 77's loaded mag length and fear not.

Gazzillions go down down range in this fashion with a high degree of accuracy for hi-power competition. Said bullets jump just fine. I've seen more than one clean at 600 yards on the MR1 target shot with mag length 77's. Ditto for the 200 & 300 yard reduced MR targets.

All of my load data is for AR service rifle, so hesitant to share. But for this weight bullet look at the "service rifle" section on many reload manuals for good starting point.

If you are on the hunt for heavy weight bullets suitable for mag-length loading and related, I encourage you to to check out RMR:

.224 RMR 69 Gr. BTHP 3GH *NEW* (Read Description Before Ordering) | RMR Bullets

We make this bullet ourselves. It is still in development so there may be some variances from lot to lot. We have pretty much gotten this bullet to where we want it. It is nearly perfect. I say nearly because city wastewater requirements mean we don’t currently have a way to polish/degrease this...

www.rmrbullets.com

.224 RMR 75 Gr. BTHP 3GH *NEW* (Read Description Before Ordering) | RMR Bullets

This is a brand new product by RMR. Basically, all I have done is rudimentary accuracy tests to make sure that I'm happy with it's accuracy capability. I've been using 75-77 grain load data from Hornady or Sierra with good results. Our bullet machine is not supposed to be able to make a bullet this

www.rmrbullets.com

Very happy with results, cost and availability.

 

[Big Mc]

Hi all,
Couldn’t see if this has been asked before.

I have a Howa 1500SA 223 24” varmint in a standard Hogues stock.
I am new to reloading and about to purchase my first projectiles to start. My question is if the 75g Hornady ELD Match will fit into Hogues internal Box mag. I have looked at the Hornady load data which indicated a COL of 2.390. I’ve attempted to measure the internal mag but can’t get a definitive reading.

Has anyone successfully loaded the 75g to fit in the mag or will I be stuck with single loading.

TIA.

What twist rate ? You may not be able to shoot a pill that heavy. Tommy Mc