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This ought to finish the posting. I prime in a Forster Co-Ax, one at a time. Seat just below flush, and not more. For powder charging, I drop the first amount with the Lee Powder dipper that comes closest to the final amount, then trickle up. About 0.2-0.3 gr. below the target amount, press down gently on the edge of the powder pan, and "float" the bar, without smacking it against the stops at the top or bottom. Then add powder a bit at a time, floating the bar until it's within 1/2 of a tenth either high or low. To test whether this is repeatable, you can take the pan off the scale, put it back on, and float the bar again. If the indicator settles exactly back where it was before, your measuring process is GTG. To test further, you can add 1 or 2 kernels of extruded powder, then float the scale again, and you should see the indicator settle an appropriate amount higher than before. Usually, 2 kernels is roughly 1/2 of a tenth, for the most common powders. Before seating a bullet, shine a light into each case, and be sure the cases have the same apparent amount of powder.
Now to bullet seating. After reading this, you're going to love me forever. I use JLK bullets, but others are excellent: Sierra, Barnes, Berger, Hornady. I use JLK because the ogives are dang near perfect, and BTO is primo. (And I can get them.) I use the Forster (or other chamber seater) and seat long by about 7-10 thousandths. The seating process starts with squaring the die to the press ram, as with the sizing die. You can seat to a solid stop, but I use the spring-loaded part at the bottom to square. If you set the die up to make a hard stop on the press ram, this is the only step you need. Seating short, however, permits you to assess the bullet ogive for consistency. Here's how that works: the Forster die stem presses on a particular datum line along the ogive, based on its contact point. When I seat long, I check the base-to-ogive using my caliper and Hornady tool. They should all come out within +/- 0.0005" (half a thousandth). When seating the first portion of the bullet, barely press the bullet into the neck, then turn the cartridge in the case holder, and seat about 0.1-0.2", which feels like just a little bit more; then seat all the way, turning 2 or 3 times. The turning makes sure the seater stem makes contact with the entire circumference of the ogive. Next, put in the Lee Dead Length Bullet Seating die, squaring it to the shell holder with the press ram firmly against it. I usually set the die ring so the press handle is about horizontal when the ram makes contact with the bottom of the seating die. Go ahead and seat the bullet all the way to the chosen depth. Turn the cartridge case 2-3 times, so the seater stem again makes contact with the entire circumference of the bullet ogive. Check each one. They should all be within +/- 0.0005", just like they were when they were seated long. This seater stem is pressing against a slightly different datum line on the bullet ogive than the seater stem on the Forster die, so doing it this way checks the ogive consistency to a certain extent. I use JLK bullets, since the base-to-ogive is always this consistent. Others can be very close. This is just a way to verify the precision of my process. Assess the seating pressure of each bullet. If it's significantly different, find the explanation, or don't use that cartridge for competition. You could take the cartridge apart with an impact bullet puller used very gently; then resize the neck with the Lee collet/mandrel die, and see if the seating pressure is appropriate.
As before, reloaders must assume responsibility for what they do, so evaluate these methods to your own satisfaction, or do it a different way; but make sure that whatever you do is safe first and foremost.
 
This ought to finish the posting. I prime in a Forster Co-Ax, one at a time. Seat just below flush, and not more. For powder charging, I drop the first amount with the Lee Powder dipper that comes closest to the final amount, then trickle up. About 0.2-0.3 gr. below the target amount, press down gently on the edge of the powder pan, and "float" the bar, without smacking it against the stops at the top or bottom. Then add powder a bit at a time, floating the bar until it's within 1/2 of a tenth either high or low. To test whether this is repeatable, you can take the pan off the scale, put it back on, and float the bar again. If the indicator settles exactly back where it was before, your measuring process is GTG. To test further, you can add 1 or 2 kernels of extruded powder, then float the scale again, and you should see the indicator settle an appropriate amount higher than before. Usually, 2 kernels is roughly 1/2 of a tenth, for the most common powders. Before seating a bullet, shine a light into each case, and be sure the cases have the same apparent amount of powder.
Now to bullet seating. After reading this, you're going to love me forever. I use JLK bullets, but others are excellent: Sierra, Barnes, Berger, Hornady. I use JLK because the ogives are dang near perfect, and BTO is primo. (And I can get them.) I use the Forster (or other chamber seater) and seat long by about 7-10 thousandths. The seating process starts with squaring the die to the press ram, as with the sizing die. You can seat to a solid stop, but I use the spring-loaded part at the bottom to square. If you set the die up to make a hard stop on the press ram, this is the only step you need. Seating short, however, permits you to assess the bullet ogive for consistency. Here's how that works: the Forster die stem presses on a particular datum line along the ogive, based on its contact point. When I seat long, I check the base-to-ogive using my caliper and Hornady tool. They should all come out within +/- 0.0005" (half a thousandth). When seating the first portion of the bullet, barely press the bullet into the neck, then turn the cartridge in the case holder, and seat about 0.1-0.2", which feels like just a little bit more; then seat all the way, turning 2 or 3 times. The turning makes sure the seater stem makes contact with the entire circumference of the ogive. Next, put in the Lee Dead Length Bullet Seating die, squaring it to the shell holder with the press ram firmly against it. I usually set the die ring so the press handle is about horizontal when the ram makes contact with the bottom of the seating die. Go ahead and seat the bullet all the way to the chosen depth. Turn the cartridge case 2-3 times, so the seater stem again makes contact with the entire circumference of the bullet ogive. Check each one. They should all be within +/- 0.0005", just like they were when they were seated long. This seater stem is pressing against a slightly different datum line on the bullet ogive than the seater stem on the Forster die, so doing it this way checks the ogive consistency to a certain extent. I use JLK bullets, since the base-to-ogive is always this consistent. Others can be very close. This is just a way to verify the precision of my process. Assess the seating pressure of each bullet. If it's significantly different, find the explanation, or don't use that cartridge for competition. You could take the cartridge apart with an impact bullet puller used very gently; then resize the neck with the Lee collet/mandrel die, and see if the seating pressure is appropriate.
As before, reloaders must assume responsibility for what they do, so evaluate these methods to your own satisfaction, or do it a different way; but make sure that whatever you do is safe first and foremost.
How do you get a seating stem to make contact at the ojive? o_O
 
Could you break your post into some paragraphs and maybe some indent bullets? I just kind of skim the forum while doing other things. Yours is too time intensive for me to be interested to read, and that is unfortunate.
It's all I could do in the time available, while trying to keep the post as short as possible. It's meant to help. Perhaps you could tag it and read it in "pieces"? Are you a pilot (as in Jeppesen charts)? I was also an ATP pilot and flight instructor at a Part 141 school years back, when I could pass a medical. I did IFR, multiengine, tailwheel transition, bush flying, mountain flying, and training for students applying to be flight instuctors. I love to fly.
 
How do you get a seating stem to make contact at the ojive? o_O
The ogive is the part of the bullet from the tip to the start of the bearing surface. Contact is close to the tip for most seating stems, but the datum line for each one is usually slightly different, which permits partial seating and evaluation of the ogive consistency via measuring after each partial seating. Am I missing something in your question?
 
The ogive is the part of the bullet from the tip to the start of the bearing surface. Contact is close to the tip for most seating stems, but the datum line for each one is usually slightly different, which permits partial seating and evaluation of the ogive consistency via measuring after each partial seating. Am I missing something in your question?
:eek: My bad. When I read it, my thinking was regarding the beginning of the ogive at the bearing surface, as that's the references to the ogive typically made. But I get it, now.:cool:
 
It's all I could do in the time available, while trying to keep the post as short as possible. It's meant to help. Perhaps you could tag it and read it in "pieces"? Are you a pilot (as in Jeppesen charts)? I was also an ATP pilot and flight instructor at a Part 141 school years back, when I could pass a medical. I did IFR, multiengine, tailwheel transition, bush flying, mountain flying, and training for students applying to be flight instuctors. I love to fly.
Ummmm. I'm wondering who your intended audience is for these posts? I.e., which discipline?

If you're intending to have others read and benefit from your posts, it goes a long way to have the wording formatted so they can 'consume' what you've written.

I'm assuming you know that there is a wide range of experience and expertise in the membership. Those with a lot of experience and expertise may find such detailed steps all bunched together as uninteresting. If the specific points were easier to find, they might find some interesting.

Less experienced members might find all the detail a bit bewildering.
 
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Ummmm. I'm wondering who your intended audience is for these posts? I.e., which discipline?

If you're intending to have others read and benefit from your posts, it goes a long way to have the wording formatted so they can 'consume' what you've written.

I'm assuming you know that there is a wide range of experience and expertise in the membership. Those with a lot of experience and expertise may find such detailed steps all bunched together as uninteresting. If the specific points were easier to find, they might find some interesting.

Less experienced members might find all the detail a bit bewildering.
Ahhhhhh
Reading between the lines, that's the secret.
 
How odd. Have no idea how the 'strikeout' got there!
Just removed it.

It did add something to the post, just not intended.
I actually enjoyed reading your post between the lines.
With the variety of disciplines that are discussed, and the various techniques used to achieve the precision/accuracy requirements of all the members, reading between the lines to stay on track is a acquired skill.
 
I didn't mention that I size the case neck in the Lee Collet/mandrel neck sizing die 3 times, turning the case after each sizing. I just got back from the range, and thought I should post the group I shot. This is 5 shots starting with a cold bore at 100 yards with a Savage Model 10, Savage factory barrel, and bedded action. The load is .308 Win, Lake City cases, Federal 210 primers, 43.0 gr of IMR 8208, and Berger 155 VLD hunting bullet. Work up your own loads to be safe, of course. Try what I recommended before deciding if it's good.
 

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