i am a sucker when new powders come on the market. rel 17 is my best discovery used in my 6x47 lapua, 80 gr fowler bullets as wll as a 243 ackley. anybody tried the above? the lable list only 22-250, 243 and a 30 cal. burn rate seems to be around h4831 and winsupreme 780. it's a flake type so you can really fill a case...40+ gr in a 22-250, 60 gr bullet...3600+ fps! i suspect it should do well in larger cases like 243 ackley, 257 roberts, 30-06. i'll try some in a 22-250, 60gr and appreciate anybody's experience. thanks.[/quote] if i can see you, i can touch you. BANG!