Hodgdon H4198 Alternatives for the 30BR

[FNSafari]

It would be interesting for anyone who has found an equal to H4198 in terms of velocity and dependability over temp changes to post their findings. I'm looking but other than N130 I'm still looking.

 

[243winxb]

Powder equivalents

Edit add. The sds for both H & IMR 4198 powders seem to have the same chemicals? Canada vs Australia.

Having used IMR4198 for many years, have seen AUSTRAILIAN MADE IMR in the container .

Compare more that 1 photos here - https://www.ilrc.ucf.edu/powders/sample_detail.php?powder_id=99

 

[AlNyhus]

Greg, I've got some of the 'usual suspects' for powders here but time and weather conditions haven't synch'd up for any meaningful testing. I don't doubt the accuracy potential of several of the more available powders...it's the ability to hold the tune up that's the unknown, isn't it?

With what I've worked with...if push came to shove, I'd default to H322 Extreme, live with the 100 fps loss, enjoy the bulk density and know the tune up will hang in there all day.

Hope all is good with you guys. -Al

 

[cdngary]

How about the VV N120 powder as a candidate?

 

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Greg, I've got some of the 'usual suspects' for powders here but time and weather conditions haven't synch'd up for any meaningful testing. I don't doubt the accuracy potential of several of the more available powders...it's the ability to hold the tune up that's the unknown, isn't it?

With what I've worked with...if push came to shove, I'd default to H322 Extreme, live with the 100 fps loss, enjoy the bulk density and know the tune up will hang in there all day.

Hope all is good with you guys. -Al

Hi guys how about LT 30? I see that on PV all the time. Or IMR 4198. ?

 

[FNSafari]

Greg, I've got some of the 'usual suspects' for powders here but time and weather conditions haven't synch'd up for any meaningful testing. I don't doubt the accuracy potential of several of the more available powders...it's the ability to hold the tune up that's the unknown, isn't it?

With what I've worked with...if push came to shove, I'd default to H322 Extreme, live with the 100 fps loss, enjoy the bulk density and know the tune up will hang in there all day.

Hope all is good with you guys. -Al

Al,
I have some 322 and used to shoot a lot of it. Thanks for shaking the tree, I'll have to dig it out and see how it performs in my rifle. You are right about the full density loading it gives like H4198. Happy Independence Day.

 

[FNSafari]

How about the VV N120 powder as a candidate?

I have tried a little but jury still out.

 

[Mulligan]

I got the 2 pounds of IMR 4198

That was quick. It arrived today. here is a direct comparison on load density as compared to H4198. The individual e kernels are longer. The color is entity different. I set my scal up and weighed 35 grns of each. The pictures tell the story. The last picture is the IMR at 34 grns. All...

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@jackieschmidt was doing some testing. I am not sure where he ended up with LT-30 or IMR 4198, hopefully it worked out well.

CW

 

[AlNyhus]

LT30 is being used with success by Jackie Schmidt and a few others. I can't speak to any specific tune changes across a days shooting, though. -Al

 

[JEFFPPC]

I have tried LT30 in both the 6ppc and the 30br. As my stock in H4198 and 133 dwindle I am switching both to LT30. I was just going to switch this year but given the state of components I will shoot up what I have been using. I also have a 8lb can mostly full of H322 that I will try in one or both Then on to the LT which I fortunately laid in a supply off right before things went crazy.

 

[DeerHunter82]

I use Lt30. Good results.

 

[FNSafari]

I use Lt30. Good results.

I have some and am going to give it a try in my rifle. Thanks for the comment.

 

[DeerHunter82]

I have some and am going to give it a try in my rifle. Thanks for the comment.

It requires a bit of a hot load in mine. 35.3 grains. Bought the 30BR drop tube from Bench Rite. Have no issues seating.

 

[sqrlgtr]

I have very little H4198 left but do have a pretty good load worked up with the Vihtavuori n130 ,it actually burns cleaner lol , but I really have more confidence in the H4198. That being said I ordered some LT 30, but havent got around to working up a load yet.... Same for Benchmark lol... I got to wondering of those that have used both H4198 and LT30 what was the difference in the charge weight between the two ?? Not trying to high jack thread just got to wondering ....

 

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PV has LT 30.

 

[JimPag]

I have some and am going to give it a try in my rifle. Thanks for the comment.

Greg why don't you ask Jarvais or Cline about LT30. Jarvais gave up on that stuff years ago after a match at Thurmont and Cline won't use it anymore. N130 is the way to go if your getting low on 4198. N130 is all Dean used and he is the best SR score shooter out there.