Help With Your Experience with Annealing Machine

[fx77]

Time to bite the bullet and anneal...I have spent hours on the machines..but with none do I have personal experience. I wanted induction annealingbecause I like the technology and the absence of a flame. Although I found examples and You Tube videos..I couldn't find a reliable source for this technology with any track record and one company has been promising delivery for over a year (inside investigation)

So although I hate the idea propane torches at home I have narrowed the decision to one of the two below links.
The first has a constant speed motor and a newer not yet advertised variable speed motor, but does not rotate the case,and it seems much simpler to use, and to set up.

The second has the same options and has allegedly sold 2400 machines and a longer more well known track record..or is this just a sales pitch...always have to be careful too good to be true and all

Both companies have been quite helpful answering questions.

I like the Giraud, but my volume is not sufficient to justify its output and need to buy the multiple parts for different calibers.

Sooo Who has a comparative assessment which U can share with me to help make a more practical and non-purely-theoretical decision?
Thanks

http://annealingmachines.com/

http://www.bench-source.com/id81.html

 

[R.Morehouse]

If I was going to use propane I would go with the Bench-Source. Induction is in the early stages of refinement. I use the Annie induction unit and it does all I need it to do. That whole end of the annealing " industry " will be refining itself in the near future I'm sure. Right now it is still kind of hit and miss with some of the offerings out there. Mine works fine so far for many hundreds of rounds but all didn't in the early goings from what I understand.

 

[ShootDots]

I bought a Bench Source and it works perfectly. I annealed by hand (drill and chuck) for years and years. It just became too laborious and slower than slow. The Bench Source allows for very quick turnaround and does a superb job. Additionally, I have never experienced a malfunction with the machine!

 

[dwcon]

Bench Source+1

 

[Bob L.]

Bench Source here, too. Very easy to set up.

 

[DeltaBravo]

Bench Source with two torch heads, double hose set-up to a 20-lb tank. Takes me 20 minutes from getting my tank from the patio, to setting everything up and annealing 100 pieces of 6BR brass. I use a "ramp" to keep the hot brass from impacting and distorting necks below it when it drops thru the hole. I also set the pencil part of the flames so that they touch at the neck and neck/shoulder junction. This way, I don't need the huge flames, and the case is annealed in about 3 seconds, +/- .5 sec. HTH

Dennis

 

[wheelgun7360]

I bought a bench source 2 weeks ago and don't know how I ever made it without one. easy to set up. highly recommend. allen

 

[RStewart]

The Bench Source allows for very quick turnaround and does a superb job. Additionally, I have never experienced a malfunction with the machine!

Yep on both statements.

 

[Mozella]

Before you buy a ready-made unit, consider building one. The "Skip" design annealer has been built by many folks, some for well under a hundred bucks. Mine cost a bit more than that, but it used some nice store-bought hubs and includes a round counter and a proximity switch on the feed ramp so that there is never any sync problems. Complete details, including parts lists and component sources, are available on another forum.

Mine is easy to use. Just load the hopper with a hundred rounds and watch it run. It's adjustable for any reasonable annealing time in small increments. Plus, I can change from .223 to 6mm BR in 10 seconds by simply adding a little shim.

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[OrdellRobbie]

+1 for the homemade option

But don't be scared by the beautiful example pictured above. Unless u are annealing large quantities of brass you may find hand feeding acceptable. building one like pictured above WithOut the case selector should only take a couple hours to build.

I hand feed mine (skip copy) with a cook time of 4 to 6 seconds which means a box of 50 takes about 6-7minutes counting the dead time on the pan. Not a huge waste of time. I wish I could chamfer debur or turn necks that fast.

All you need to get started is the spinning pie pan and a ramp for them to drop into the pan. Then go all the way like mozellas example when you need more volume.

The induction annealers I have seen are way too fast. Meaning micro changes in time could be the difference in over or under annealing with little room inbetween.

 

[R.Morehouse]

Induction being fast is accurate. As accurate as the timer on mine that is able to be set with in 1/10 of a second then it turns off and stops 100% every time........ 300RUM brass 2.6sec..............

 

[jonbearman]

I have a ballistics edge I believe and it works great. It doesn't spin the case but has 2 torch heads. It will do from 22 hornet to 50 bmg.

 

[quartermaster]

I like my bench source also

 

[Ledd Slinger]

+1 for Bench Source. Awesome machine and easy to use. Wheel is universal and will accommodate many different cartridges from small varmint rounds to large magnums. No need to be changing out parts all the time like some of the other machines. All you do is adjust the wheel position.

 

[CHROME]

Benchsource and don't look back.

 

[rduckwor]

Annealeez. $250 and dead simple. It works.

RMD

 

[gaboon]

+1 on the skips design built mine for less than a $100.

 

[jnyfeler]

Not sure what the aversion to torches is, but I use a Ken Light BC 1000 http://www.kenlightmfg.com/products.html.

It AIN'T cheap, but is IS nice and fast.

Jeff

 

[ericbc7]

+1 for AnnealEez

 

[Dave Brown]

+1 Benchsource