Healthcare over reach!

[Kracken McGraw]

No, its not our job to pry information out of people. but there is absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever with simply asking someone if they feel safe at home and if they are being abused or being taken advantage of. You are twisting this into some ridiculous way that it doesn't need to be.

This thread here is making it seem like healthcare professionals are weaponizing screening questions as a means to invade your personal life and take away your rights and I promise you that is not happening...

Thank you Braxton. As a retired healthcare professional, I'm happy to see that the care I now receive has moved from crisis management to wellness and prevention. I'm happy to answer any and all questions. Healthcare workers have better things to do with their time than report my responses to entities that may be a threat to me.

Thanks to both of you for taking care of us for our health services and it doesn’t go unnoticed.

 

[bugman]

No, its not our job to pry information out of people. but there is absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever with simply asking someone if they feel safe at home and if they are being abused or being taken advantage of. You are twisting this into some ridiculous way that it doesn't need to be.

This thread here is making it seem like healthcare professionals are weaponizing screening questions as a means to invade your personal life and take away your rights and I promise you that is not happening...

What part about the GOVERNMENT weaponizing screening questions don't you want to admit?

 

[FNSafari]

We sent the home health nurse packing yesterday! 45 minutes of inane questions and some very private! Such as how many pairs of colored drawers do I have! I could go on and on. I am looking forward to PT and OT as they have a purpose. Can you imagine how much of our tax dollars are going to pay for this!
I'm headed to my shop as I have a lot to do and our government ain't subsidizing me.

I have consistently told the caller asking "can I schedule a home health nurse visit" packing with a resounding NO. Think about how this info may be used down the road!!

 

[rwj]

I’ve always politely treated answering non visit/treatment related questions as optional. I’ve yet to have a physician, clinic, or insurance company deny services.

 

[PhilC]

Then there are the Medicare wellness check 'exercises', eg, memory tests..

Hate those and my Dr's nurse knows it, she laughs when I screw the answer up every year. No one has come knocking on my door yet.

I filter petty BS in real time, just ask my wife.

 

[Kevin1990]

No, its not our job to pry information out of people. but there is absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever with simply asking someone if they feel safe at home and if they are being abused or being taken advantage of. You are twisting this into some ridiculous way that it doesn't need to be.

This thread here is making it seem like healthcare professionals are weaponizing screening questions as a means to invade your personal life and take away your rights and I promise you that is not happening...

"Making it seem like they are weaponizing screening questions." It's making it seem like that because they in fact are. Would you like some more studies on the effects of these questions as well? I thought you said you were done responding? I've shown multiple studies showing those questions do more harm than good. So why ask them? It's either to be weaponized or to bill insurance more. You seem to have this fanciful idea about healthcare. Go look into oncology and see what they do for a real eye opener and how they bill. Healthcare is full of corruption, stop being so ignorant.

 

[CharlieNC]

If your are on Medicare, they are forced to ask those questions by Medicare. If they don't ask, they will not receive full compensation. It's totally an insurance thing.

Yep. I skip many of the questions, turn in the form, and see the doctor; he likes hunting, fishing, and football so we get along. Never a mention about the incomplete form.

 

[fx77]

If U have managed medicare, ( Medicare Advantage) these nurses are instructed to find additional problems you may have but are not clinically evident. This increases the complexity of your case with more diagnoses( even if they need no trtment), and the private company monitoring the managed medicare plan, gets extra payment for this.
Managed medicare is cheap, crappy, and should be renamed- Dis-advantage care

 

[450BM]

you literally said yourself "the nurse doesn't need to know if someone in the house is beating him".

And yeah it actually is my job, as an RN we are a mandated reporter for suspected abuse. I could lose my license if I didn't.

Not gonna argue with you any further

Nurses and doctors are heroes in my book. You put up with a lot of crap from people that don’t want to be in your care, not because of you, just nobody wants to be sick or injured. I get it, they want to feel better and some people, unfortunately for you folks, take it out on those nearest to them. Most of you suck it up and deal with them the best you can and I applaud you for it.

Thank you for your service to those in need. It’s been me before, four different times, and I’m thankful there are people like you willing to do that type of work.

Bryan

 

[jelenko]

mandated reporter for suspected abuse.

I get the mandate. And, it would be wonderful if only a few who are being abused were 'saved'.

But, broadly speaking, it can be tough for a third party who has little or no other interactions with the family to judge whether there is abuse. And, for all those families/living situations where no abuse is going on it sure comes across as meddling.

Net: I see these types of 'mandates' as over reach by our government. They are in the 'class' of things the government does that actually only relate to a very few people but they essentially harass everyone.

 

[jrb06]

As to answering some of those questions, one of the best answerers I saw somewhere was pertaining to do you have guns.

Doc or Nurse: Do you have any guns?
Me: Do you have any dildos or sex toys at home?
Doc or Nurse: perplexed look and confusion.
Me: See, made you uncomfortable and that is none of my business so you asking me about guns is none of your business so lets move on.

 

[Benchrest Braxton]

What part about the GOVERNMENT weaponizing screening questions don't you want to admit?

I am against government intrusion just as much as the rest of you, so please don't get it twisted. The fact that you make this sound like I am somehow in on this is just laughable.

 

[Benchrest Braxton]

"Making it seem like they are weaponizing screening questions." It's making it seem like that because they in fact are. Would you like some more studies on the effects of these questions as well? I thought you said you were done responding? I've shown multiple studies showing those questions do more harm than good. So why ask them? It's either to be weaponized or to bill insurance more. You seem to have this fanciful idea about healthcare. Go look into oncology and see what they do for a real eye opener and how they bill. Healthcare is full of corruption, stop being so ignorant.

I absolutely think there is corruption within the American health care system. I also think it's fine to ask a simple screening question about abuse.

 

[450BM]

As to answering some of those questions, one of the best answerers I saw somewhere was pertaining to do you have guns.

Doc or Nurse: Do you have any guns?
Me: Do you have any dildos or sex toys at home?
Doc or Nurse: perplexed look and confusion.
Me: See, made you uncomfortable and that is none of my business so you asking me about guns is none of your business so lets move on.

Lol! A buddy of mine is a retired state trooper. They got a call once about a stolen item. It was a gay man that had his dildo stollen. They had to treat it just any other burglary.

I suspect there is a lot more abuse around than most realize. Many sad situations out there.

I’ve had to fill out the questionnaires plenty of times for the surgeries I’ve had. I keep changing my answers on my sexually identity and my race. Nobody has called me out on it yet!

 

[c3d4b2]

I was advised to answer non medical questions with "that is a boundary violation".

 

[shoot4fun]

The first visit to my primary care doctor after turning 65 I was handed a several page questionnaire. I looked at a couple of questions, wrote NYFB in big letters across it and gave it back to the receptionist.
First thing I told my doctor was that if I had to answer all those questions I would find a new doctor. His reply was that Medicare forced him to comply and he had blacked out a lot of questions that he felt his patients didn't need to even be subjected to.
My Advantage insurer sent me an unsolicited package two weeks ago requesting a stool sample. NOPE!
They have had a third party screening company call me four times wanting to come visit me at home. I told them every time my home is my home and they were not invited. After telling them four times to take me off the call list I informed my insurance company that I would take legal action if they continued harassing me. No more calls.
Now, on the plus side (big plus) I have had some serious medical issues this year. They have not turned down any procedures or any bill submitted on my behalf which, hold on to your wallet, came to almost 1.5 MILLION dollars.

 

[ISS]

A couple things to consider here:

1. nothing you put in print ever goes away.
2. ditto for any thing you say.
3. if you think it's overreacting just type in Kristall Nacht on your search engine some time. IIRC that is how the first thing the Nazis did after seizing power.
4. I only had the VA ask me about guns one time. I just said NONYAFB. They have not asked again. I live in Idaho and that was not just the State where I fell off a Beet truck in 1978.

Do not blindly accept everything Braxton inputs here. Or anyone else. Nothing personal...

Rich

 

[ISS]

It got me thinking; I survived three tours in RVN. But, I brought Agent Orange home with me. I have had five surgeries to remove cancerous organs to date. Each time after the first one they have asked me if I have ever had any surgeries. I said, can you read my medical history? Yes, of course was the answer each time. The last time (#5) they told me I had cancer of the left kidney, and they would have to remove it.
I asked for a second opinion by a civilian Dr. They did a second MRI, and found that it was a"thing" growing on the back side. The VA Dr just said "oh..." and sliced me open about 1 1/2" across the front, slid my guts and kidney out of the way and removed the thing that was growing on the back. I had made a written request for it to be biopsied to determine what it actually was. They sent half of it to the VA Med Ctr in Seattle, and the other half to Johns Hopkins. By a curious twist of fate, the USPS somehow lost both packages. To this day I still wonder what it was they actually found of one or the other, or both; and why the VA did not want me to know.
My last annual the new Dr I have pronounced me cancer free. Cross my fingers...

Rich

 

[Benchrest Braxton]

It got me thinking; I survived three tours in RVN. But, I brought Agent Orange home with me. I have had five surgeries to remove cancerous organs to date. Each time after the first one they have asked me if I have ever had any surgeries. I said, can you read my medical history? Yes, of course was the answer each time. The last time (#5) they told me I had cancer of the left kidney, and they would have to remove it.
I asked for a second opinion by a civilian Dr. They did a second MRI, and found that it was a"thing" growing on the back side. The VA Dr just said "oh..." and sliced me open about 1 1/2" across the front, slid my guts and kidney out of the way and removed the thing that was growing on the back. I had made a written request for it to be biopsied to determine what it actually was. They sent half of it to the VA Med Ctr in Seattle, and the other half to Johns Hopkins. By a curious twist of fate, the USPS somehow lost both packages. To this day I still wonder what it was they actually found of one or the other, or both; and why the VA did not want me to know.
My last annual the new Dr I have pronounced me cancer free. Cross my fingers...

Rich

thank you for your service and congratulations on beating cancer

 

[ISS]

so far. so good...