Good Deals on MidwayUSA this month

[BigDMT]

I just got the midwayusa flyer the other day. They have the Wildgame Innovations Elite Lights Out 8.0 MP Infrared game camera on sale for $99.
Checked normal prices on the web and the cheapest I could find that camera was about $150 so I grabbed one. That will be my very first game camera so i am pretty excited. Got lots of plans for that thing

Also picked up a couple Tipton carbon fiber one piece rods that were about $10 off the normal price. The new Tipton carbons are very nice rods too, I actually like them better than my Dewey rods. Plus got a few other things.

They have some other really good deals in the flyer too. Like the Wheeler FAT torque wrench set for about $42 and a few other deals that were hard for me to pass up, but the cart started getting expensive the more I got carried away

Anyhow, just thought I'd pass it along to the hunting forum that MidwayUSA has those nice game cameras on sale. Take care.

 

[wboggs]

We have used them for the last 8years. I predict you will love it and purchase more. Very interesting to note feeding and movement between areas. Takes some getting used to but reading the signs and seeing the pictures is a real eye opener.
Bill

 

[LHSmith]

Read the Midway reviews on their CF rods.....they are known to snap which can cause an ugly injury. They used to be an advertiser here, I searched, they no longer are listed. I'll stick to the advertisers listed, I'm not a fan of Tipton and Caldwell products. Twenty years ago, they got a big part of my paycheck....but I learned from sites like this, there is better equipment made that serves my accuracy needs better.

 

[CanusLatransSnpr]

I've used a Tipton Carbon Fiber rod for several years, same one, and have never had a problem one with it! This is just like a buddy of mine heard of a Mathews Solocam bow folding over a cam one time and he won't even think of shooting a solocam now. Even though he's seen me have great success with one! I guess my point is, don't believe all hype! You might be missing out on a great product?

Mike

 

[LHSmith]

I've used a Tipton Carbon Fiber rod for several years, same one, and have never had a problem one with it! This is just like a buddy of mine heard of a Mathews Solocam bow folding over a cam one time and he won't even think of shooting a solocam now. Even though he's seen me have great success with one! I guess my point is, don't believe all hype! You might be missing out on a great product?

Mike

Well, an acquaintance that I know that suffered nerve loss and damaged tendons in his hand due to a snapped CF rod ain't exactly "hyped" up over them. This is a fact.

 

[BigDMT]

I've used a Tipton Carbon Fiber rod for several years, same one, and have never had a problem one with it! This is just like a buddy of mine heard of a Mathews Solocam bow folding over a cam one time and he won't even think of shooting a solocam now. Even though he's seen me have great success with one! I guess my point is, don't believe all hype! You might be missing out on a great product?

Mike

Well, an acquaintance that I know that suffered nerve loss and damaged tendons in his hand due to a snapped CF rod ain't exactly "hyped" up over them. This is a fact.

How hard do you have to push to break a carbon rod? I know they can break, anything can, but for christ's sake!

Obviously he was using the wrong size brush or patch in the bore or perhaps was trying to remove something stuck in the bore. I suspect there was more lack of common sense to blame in that accident than the quality of the carbon rod.

The Tipton CF's are great rods, I have been using 2 of them for a long time now, this is not my first rodeo with Tipton fiber rods. I just happened to order 2 more because I like them so much and they were on sale for a great price

 

[LHSmith]

Big- Go to a Registered BR match and you will see competitors running new brushes and tight patches and depending how the much the bore is fouled and how the patch folds as it enters the bore...considerable force is required to push the rod through the first few inches until the patch forms to the bore.....you won't find CF rods there.
And I would be willing to bet most shooters buying CF rods do not use the proper bore guide ...if they use one at all......thus aggravating the problem. My common sense tells me as the epoxy coating encapsuting the carbon fibers wears away and expose the carbon fibers, it can't be good for the throat area or the lands. Again read the Midway reviews, they DO have recurring QC problems.

 

[BluePanda]

BigDMT,

I'm with you. Have 2 of the Tipton CF rods and love them. I can't imagine what kind of force it would take to break them.....and if a person is pushing it hard enough to breaking point during cleaning, I'm more inclined to blame the operator more than the product.

LHS,

Which cleaning rods do you prefer?

 

[BigDMT]

Big- Go to a Registered BR match and you will see competitors running new brushes and tight patches and depending how the much the bore is fouled and how the patch folds as it enters the bore...considerable force is required to push the rod through the first few inches until the patch forms to the bore.....you won't find CF rods there.
And I would be willing to bet most shooters buying CF rods do not use the proper bore guide ...if they use one at all......thus aggravating the problem. My common sense tells me as the epoxy coating encapsuting the carbon fibers wears away and expose the carbon fibers, it can't be good for the throat area or the lands. Again read the Midway reviews, they DO have recurring QC problems.

I have always used bore guides. Anyone who does not use a guide does not care about their barrel IMO. Properly sized patches do not push hard through a bore. I cut mine with scissors to get just the right fit. And I only use nylon brushes which don't require much force either. If you use the proper cleaners, hard to push bronze brushes are not needed to get the carbon and copper. And yes I shoot competition. If you are having to push that hard on a rod, you need to figure out a new cleaning method. Its not rocket science, its just cleaning up AFTER rocket science

Cleaning rods should always be inspected before use, so if using a worn carbon rod with frayed fibers, there's not a lot of common sense being used in that situation either

 

[LHSmith]

Dewey coated rods, i got 6 of them, my 18 Y.O. 6mm rod looks as good as my 3 yr old .20 cal. rod. Four of the rods get used to clean comp. BR guns and see a lot of use. I use 2 pc bore Lucas bore guides and wipe my rods constantly.
I am not the least bit impressed with Tipton and Caldwell products....it's all entry level goods of inferior quality made in China. I don't really believe these people designing their stuff are avid shooters. On Battenfields website, there is a video touting their CF rods, first they show a guy cleaning a bolt action from the muzzle end with a scraped up coated rod (supposedly a Dewey), then they show a Tipton rod being used to clean the same gun from the breech....but w/o a bore guide... while on the same page they recommend the use of a bore guide.Do they even have a clue?
BTW....their literature states:"the shank-through construction allows the user to apply reasonable hammer blows to the end of the cleaning rod to get a tight patch through the bore"......perhaps a bit optimistic on their part ....as evidenced by customer complaints of breakage on Midway, Cabelas, Bass Pro, and Gander Mtn feedback responses. They apparently break (splinter as some describe) at the handle/ rod junction ....this is their disclaimer: "Use caution to minimize flexing the junction between the cleaning rod handle and the cleaning rod shaft." This makes no sense to me..I thought the CF rods virtue is flexibility w/o breaking.
I rest my case.

 

[BigDMT]

They actually recommended hammer blows? That's insane! Hahaha. It's sad to think about how many firearms that company ruined with bad advice taken by shooters who didn't know any better.

I used Dewey rods for years. Still have all of them. But they are my back up rods to the Tipton CFs now. Just what works for me I guess. To each his own

 

[LRPV]

The 17cal rods are the only ones I've read about breaking. I use a 22 and 30 Cal Tipton rods and while I'll never claim to be an expert, I do use bore guides, Lucas now and lesser versions before I knew any better. I find the male ends on Dewey rods and real pain especially when 90%+ of the jags/brushes require an adapter to use them. I gave away my uncoated SS rods when I heard they were hard on bores and now I see them used at the shoots I attend. I did buy a Boretech 6mm rod because I thought it would be a little stiffer than the 22cal Dewey that I somehow managed to bend right at the handle. It's OK but not perfect either.

LHSmith, did you say you have a 6mm Dewey rod? I didn't know they made one. Good thing about this site is I learn something new all the time.

 

[LHSmith]

Sorry, I was in error, my 6mm rods are actually .22 cal rods with whatever caliber jag gives me the right patch fit relative to which phase of the cleaning process I am in. When using Iosso, at the end of a match or practice, I prefer a tight patch vs. a brush to apply it, and short stroking the throat multiple times takes considerable force until the patch moulds to the bore. Through trial and error, I have found this method works best for me as confirmed with routine use of a borescope. Dewey claims by using male threads on the basic rod, they can apply a heavier coating. They also advise not to use TM solution as it softens the nylon coating.

 

[onelastshot]

If you're going to use a hammer to force a cleaning rod through your barrel, you might as well just pick up a piece of re-bar, wrap a piece of rag around the end, cover it with axle grease and hammer away! Or, use use an old metal cleaning rod with a brass or copper brush, attach it to a high speed drill and give it a go. I'm pretty certain that will scrape out any fouling.