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Gain Twist

Research the Wheatstone Bridge, iirc. It is an engineering concept Dan Lilja introduced me to about forty years ago. Fluting was near universal on ancient Greek/Roman buildings. Ditto many large buildings today that have columns/pillars. They did not do it for looks. It vastly expands the surface area, that improves rigidity, and increases cooling surface at the same time. It is known that fluted barrels heat slower over time, over the same diameter unfluted ones.
I was friends for many years with Carl Hildebrandt (sp?) at Savage. One project I did field testing with him involved accuracy testing fluted VS none.
As an aside, ever wonder why factories resisted fluting barrels for so many years? The fluting process, one flute at a time bends/warps the barrel. Rotating it 180-degrees hopefully undoes the bend/warp. The end process was heat treating to even out the flexing. It's been nearly 40 years, as I said, since we did this testing, so memory may be a bit incomplete.
Back to Carl. When H&R folded, Carl convinces Savage's CEO (Ron Coburn?) to go to the sale and buy some tooling. H&R made these neat little 22 revolvers, and like most it had fluted cylinders. They had devised a multi-flute cutting tool that cut all the cylinder flutes at the same speed/hydraulic pressure. Carl takes it back to Savage, does some research, and figures out how to adapt it to cut all the flutes on their target rifles in two passes. Down, and then back. Somehow, I got invited to do some independent field testing. They made four single shot rifles, two each in 22-250 and 220 Swift. 1:8" twist 26" barrels. They fit two barrels to each rifle, and sent me a barrel wrench. I fired fifty rounds thru each of the eight barrels. These barrels were unfluted.
I sent everything back, with a note on most and least accurate barrels. Carl fluted all eight barrels, and sent them back. On average, they averaged 1/4" smaller 5-shot groups at 200 yards; my testing distance. There were three other testers involved, plus the factory testing in their 100yd underground facility. Results were similar, but all the barrels shot better after fluting.
That was 30 years ago, maybe longer, and I did not keep detailed notes for myself. It all went to Carl.
Gain twist barrels had their increased accuracy Golden Era with lead bullets and Schuetzen shooting. Pope, Zischang, Schalk, and a few other believed that their was less distortion starting slower, and speeding up towards the muzzle. They also used 30" barrels.
 
Finally..... after messing around with this program for about a year or so it is finally done! This is my version of the latest craze in the fluting world, it is called "Gain Twist Fluting" . Not a simple program to write long hand, but I prefer to do things the hard way! Fluting starts at 1300 deg of rotation and finishes at 300 deg. So in 18" the twist slows down about 1000 deg. Starts fast at chamber and slows towards the muzzle. Hope you guys find it interesting as it is rather unique. Left pic is starting twist and middle is finish twist. And the complete barrel in third pic!

Paul
www.boltlfluting.com


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After writing that program, You should be able to write the program to flute a bolt the way I was wanting while you sleep.
 
After writing that program, You should be able to write the program to flute a bolt the way I was wanting while you sleep.
Edd,
After writing this program for a barrel, a bolt would be a piece of cake! Refresh my memory on what you were looking for?
Paul
 
Edd,
After writing this program for a barrel, a bolt would be a piece of cake! Refresh my memory on what you were looking for?
Paul
 
Would that be some sort of an interrupted thread? You would cut the flute about ___% of the way around the circular bolt, then skip ____%, then pick up the cutting again that _____% in the original pattern? Repeat the process until skip time again.

ISS
 
Would that be some sort of an interrupted thread? You would cut the flute about ___% of the way around the circular bolt, then skip ____%, then pick up the cutting again that _____% in the original pattern? Repeat the process until skip time again.

ISS
Yes, very similar to what you are describing. Each flute would need it's own line of code within the program. The timing of the flutes, or starting point, would be the critical part. Trouble is there is no demand for this style of fluting. Basically I would have to write a custom program, testing and all, for just one bolt. It could be done, but would require a considerable amount of time and testing and no market to use it on at the end of all the work. If there was a market I would already offer this style. But, there just isn't.
Paul
 
Perhaps you could post here that you have ONE person interested. Say that it is too much time and $$$ to make a one-off; and ask if anyone else is interested? I might not be the only one here. If not, I would still like a flute pattern similar to the ones you offer on bolts and barrels these days.
thanks,

Rich

PS: an Idaho Rockchuck, or many of them would all be honored to die from a projectile fired from a barrel this stylish...
 

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