Okay, here is what we have discovered, I think we found the problem, the BAT action had the pic rail and I know it takes short screws and installed them BUT I must have torqued the rear down first so the front felt solid, come to find out they were not short enough! I've run into the short screw problem but not like this as they were short. Makes you shake your head sometimes. The second gun was a bedding problem, (smith not to be named, not looking to hurt anyones rep, and may not have been his problem?) did the build, he now has it and suppose to ship back to me tomorrow, fingers crossed. The bolt would go in 7/8 of the way but would bind. Loosen the action screw and it worked fine.