Steve Donlon
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I shot the first group Monday and was advised to try moving in closer to the lands and it worked. 6 shots 30-06 210 gr berger t Thanks JBT
from .015 out to touching with 30-06
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I shot the first group Monday and was advised to try moving in closer to the lands and it worked. 6 shots 30-06 210 gr berger t Thanks JBTThat's a pretty good set up now. I've been attracted to those 210s since I heard about them. I've yet to look at the trajectory info but they have good potential. I assume you're somewhere in the 2680fps range with that long barrel (what length is it again..)? On another forum I've heard several people using RL17 with the 210s but not sure that'd be my first choice. When using a 308 people have got up to 2700fps with 1:10 and over 30' barrels supposedly.
Steve Donlon
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It' a 30 " barrel I think it is about 2680 fps with only 51.8gr IMR 4350 53grs is my next sweet spot.
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Steve Donlon
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I have not tried "jammed" That hole in the center of my last target was from a thumb tack I used as a aiming point. I think that made the group bigger when it got pushed through. I don't think I can shoot much better, but I could try jamming them. I got sloppy loading the 195gr TMK bullets and it went in a little cockeyed and would not even chamber. I guess that tight chamber has it's things to be aware of. Never had that happen before. Keeps me on my toes.
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Steve Donlon
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Okay, I"ll try it when I get the courage. Seems risky to this old timer. One point, these are not the VLD bullets. They are Long Range Target #30619.
ah, ya that might make a difference. A .014 difference in base to ogive. I doubt it'd hurt to try but lots of people do a "little" "jam" on the VLD 210s, I know I do with VLDs in 270. Here's a spec sheet: http://www.bergerbullets.com/pdf/Quick-Reference-Sheets.pdf
Steve Donlon
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Thanks for the spec. sheet. I have a question; I am waiting for some Berger .308 200-20X bullets. Everything I have read says .013"- .015" jump is best. Seems they don't like being jammed. Any reason why when the specs say they should be jammed?
Steve Donlon
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Right. I think I miss- read the spec sheet because I don't have enough knowledge to make sense of it. I Better just listen to my barrel. I will start .015 off and work in and see.
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I can't answer your other question but Berger bullets work good for me. I was jumping them like .04 when I started because I didn't know any better and accuracy was comparable to where I'm at now. I recently tested 5 at .02 jump, .01 jump, touching, .01 jam, .02 jam and .03 jam. With my shooting it was hard to tell the winner but I'm staying around .01-.02 jam for now.
jonbearman
I live in new york state,how unfortunate !
I think you have a winner. As you get more used to this rifle you will shoot even better.
Steve Donlon
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yep, I guess you just never know. thanks, you guys have been gentleman, time to move on and get to work on this new rifle.
joshb
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No! Don't "move on"!
We learn something when you learn something......and post about it!
Keep us updated, please. I just bought an old 30-06 (my first) and I just bought a Remington long action that's going to become an 06 when I figure out a barrel for it. I'm very interested in your testing.
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Steve Donlon
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I'm glad your interested. It's great you want to try the old war horse too.No! Don't "move on"!
I will try my Eld 208gr.bullets Sunday with the same 51.8gr load that works on my Remington LR 30-06 and also works on the 210berger and the 210 Sierra Mk bullets on my new heavy barrel rifle. I will get the Berger 200-20X bullets Monday to try. I will start the 208's .020, .015 then touching to see what happens. I think .015". This is all new to me because with my Remington LR I could never get close to the lands. I could never get a Berger to shoot. But the 208g. ELD shoot great at 1000 yards with .1 jump. The only heavy bullet that shoot good at 1000 yards, with the Remington, that I could get close to the lands is the Hornady 208gr. Match at .015 off. But the ELD has better performance at that range. If you want to hear what I'm doing I will be glad to share, it's an honor to be part of this forum. I'm glad that my old stand by load of 51.8grs of IMR 4350 works in both rifles so far. Think the harmonics are similar. the heavy 30' barrel matchs the 26" varmint Remington barrel some how. If both were the same weight it might be different.
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Steve Donlon
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Went out to try 208gr ELD, 200gr SMK and 208gr. Hornady Match. All of the 200gr SMK bullets chambered but only shot .5" group. The Hornady match where about the same but 3 out of ten would not chamber. The ELD's shot great 9 shots .26" but I had 12 out of 30 that would not chamber. All the bullets that would not chamber had skid marks on one side of the bullet. I'm using regular Redding dies. No bushing. I ordered the competition seating die, I hope this helps.
I've noticed more seating depth variance with hornady bullets measuring coal. Had a few that wouldn't go into battery.
Set my seater a couple thou deeper, rotating case 180 degrees and giving another bump.
These were compressed loads.
Your charge weight leads me to believe your not compressed. So the powder column isn't pushing back against bullet.
Maybe measure finished rounds neck, wondering if you could be getting variation there. You do have a tight neck in your chamber if I remember correctly.
Set my seater a couple thou deeper, rotating case 180 degrees and giving another bump.
These were compressed loads.
Your charge weight leads me to believe your not compressed. So the powder column isn't pushing back against bullet.
Maybe measure finished rounds neck, wondering if you could be getting variation there. You do have a tight neck in your chamber if I remember correctly.
I would like to one day build a 30-06. I'd want a custom reamer with a 1.5 leade angle similar to the one mentioned in this thread and probably built for shooting 210grain-ers but not sure on that part: http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/30-06-chamber-specs.3888064/No! Don't "move on"!
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