flags, Flags, FLAGS!!!!

[BoydAllen]

The nice thing about my Hood flags is that they have enough vane and the extension of the front weight or daisy is adjustable, so experimenting for best result on the range is easy. I use the light lead weight that is designed to be used to secure and help balance with the daisy, without the daisy, extended as far forward as the shaft will go. That gives me the best response while quickly coming to a stable reading. One option on the Graham flags is a thumb screw at the top of the pivot block that allows front to rear adjustmet of the shaft position and its attachments. I do not remember if your flag has this feature, but I suppose that if you have determined what works best, it may not be needed. In any case, I have always favored doing on the range experiments for a lot of things, but I have observed that this like of experimenting is by no means universal. At the Visalia matches, over time, flags have become simpler, with fewer and fewer daisy wheels. For a time there was an upsurge of the Beggs indicators but that sort of went away, although there are some of that type from time to time.

Unrelated to the discussion of flag design, more about the nature of what we are trying to see.....one time I put one of the Beggs units near one of my flags at about 35 yards. the While I was sitting there watching, the shaft on the Beggs snapped over as far to the left as it could go, and immediately returned to its previous near center position. The regular flag had not shown a thing.

 

[jackieschmidt]

This is my flag, I started using the cheap tripods years ago because they are easy to level. It is quite a bit of work making these, but they seem to do a good job.

I have sponsored a flag rotation at several Score Nationals, and Nobody has ever complained.

 

[rayporter]

i prefer hood flags but many times i have shot over other flags and shot well. sometimes i feel i would have shot better with my own but usually it is a non issue. many of these flags were home made of various styles. you must learn to watch the field with any flag.

and setting them in a way that you can spot all of them is super important.

maybe i pay closer attention to a new style, who knows.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

i prefer hood flags but many times i have shot over other flags and shot well. sometimes i feel i would have shot better with my own but usually it is a non issue. many of these flags were home made of various styles. you must learn to watch the field with any flag.

and setting them in a way that you can spot all of them is super important.

maybe i pay closer attention to a new style, who knows.

I agree! Gotta watch them all. The ones around you are the ones that warn you first about a switch coming. Some pretty basic math that puts it into perspective a bit is a 10mph is moving across the range at about 14.6fps, fwiw. Now, if only we could count on it being constant. Not likely around here, at least not very often.

 

[AlNyhus]

This is my flag, I started using the cheap tripods years ago because they are easy to level. It is quite a bit of work making these, but they seem to do a good job.

I have sponsored a flag rotation at several Score Nationals, and Nobody has ever complained.
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Jackie, are you shooting the NBRSA Score Nationals next week? -Al

 

[jackieschmidt]

Jackie, are you shooting the NBRSA Score Nationals next week? -Al

No, Al, I have too much going on at our Shop. I have dedicated time for one long trip this year, that will be Tack Driver 111 in South Carolina.

 

[AlNyhus]

No, Al, I have too much going on at our Shop. I have dedicated time for one long trip this year, that will be Tack Driver 111 in South Carolina.

Dang...was looking forward to buying you a cold beverage of your choice. -Al

 

[JEFFPPC]

I think flags can be to sensitive. The ones that never stop twitching I do not like. Maybe I'm not smart enough for them but sometimes too much super fine information is overload.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I think flags can be to sensitive. The ones that never stop twitching I do not like. Maybe I'm not smart enough for them but sometimes too much super fine information is overload.

Jeff, if they twitch back and forth it's not because they are too sensitive, but because they need to be balanced properly. Go back and read my last couple of posts on this. It's not hard to do. I'll say again though, balanced in the house is NOT a balanced WIND flag. The simple fix is to make them just slightly tail heavy in the house. In use, they are not tail heavy at all. A WIND flag should be balanced by pressure, not gravity, fwiw.

 

[Dub]

I like seeing at least a couple of my flags in the scope. I also look at the other flags on the range

 

[JEFFPPC]

Jeff, if they twitch back and forth it's not because they are too sensitive, but because they need to be balanced properly. Go back and read my last couple of posts on this. It's not hard to do. I'll say again though, balanced in the house is NOT a balanced WIND flag. The simple fix is to make them just slightly tail heavy in the house. In use, they are not tail heavy at all. A WIND flag should be balanced by pressure, not gravity, fwiw.

There is a fellow I have shot against whose flags are small......and twitchy. They annoy me. He is excellent shooter so they work for him. Thanks for the information on balance. I guess my flags will be lined across the neighbors field again next week. Speaking of, to those that know me.....I have NEVER forgot my flags or timer. Now, proper gun, shells, correct bolt....that's a different story.

 

[AlNyhus]

It's important to have a decent fit between the pivot anf the pin.

The air foil flags I have a 6" long Delrin guide that the 8" long stainless pivot fits into. They are a bit rear biased so they don't shake around like a female intern in Bill Clinton's office.

Good shootin' -Al

 

[Tommie]