Thanks again for all the info and feedback. I'm willing to best most of my error is in my shooting technique. I'm still using my little caldwell bag with the big front rest. I haven't figured out my best sitting position and bag position. I tent to move my rear bag more than front, which I feel I should get away from. I also havent put any baby powder on the bags yet so the recoil constantly moves my rear bag. Last trip up I had a tough time with all the mirage and didn't shoot any worth while groups. I had one that would have been real nice had I not been moving so much and the mirage. Guess this is how I learn! I need to make a trip up again soon to fire these cases again so I can anneal the cases. (just made my own annealer)