FFP Vs. SFP, Bushnell Elite Tactical G2 Reticle ERS Riflescope, 6-24x50mm

[simpleba]

Greetings everyone...

I have access to a 1000 yard High Power Rifle Range and would like to seriously start attempting some long range shooting... I've been shooting all my life and finally started reloading about three years ago. I'm not going into this with the expectation of being a full-class F/TR marksman but rather want to hone my marksmanship skills at longer ranges in the hopes of being able to compete in the future...

I reload and have found an accurate recipe for my rifle out to 500-600 yds... I have a very decent heavy barreled Marlin in .308 that will be the test bed and I have narrowed my glass down to the Bushnell Elite Tactical G2 Reticle ERS, 6-24x50mm. My question is that for the intend purpose (informal marksmanship/training) do I need this scope to be FFP or can I use the SFP version? The cost difference between the two models while not negligible is otherwise not prohibitive...

Thoughts, opinions, and facts are all welcome...

Cheers
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[uncleduke]

Since no one else is chiming in, I'll start. If you're only shooting competion at known ranges; go with a SFP. If you really want to learn in the field shooting, go with a FFP. The problem is finding a scope in FFP that doesn't obscure the target. The high dollar scopes with FFP are tactical oriented. I found shooting F/Tr with a SFP to be better. Shooting a two person team both using a mil based reticle works better for unknown distances. If you find a quality scope in FFP that you are comfortable with, then IMO go in that direction. The problem is the cost of one to the other. I personally enjoy shooting at unknown distances for the satisfaction.

 

[GSPV]

The only thing that you want FFP for is using the reticle to estimate distance. The FFP reticle subtends the same angle (MOA, milliradian, whatever) at all magnifications.

The downside to that is that the reticle gets bigger at higher magnifications.

In SFP, the reticle does not grow with magnification. That's why 99.9% of all scopes in known-distance competition are SFP.

In your place, I'd find a used Nightforce BR 12-42.

 

[Jdne5b]

I used the FFP G2 6-24x50 Bushnell for my first 2 years of Fclass. The scope was fine, but I liked my 12-42 better, and I like my NF Competition even better than that.

The FFP is nice, the G2 has a smallish center crosshair, so it's not terrible on 24x @ 600 yards.

I still have the scope on my "tacticool" rifle. The FFP is beneficial for shooting steel and other targets when needing to make adjustments and a spotter is calling out corrections. No matter what power the scope is on, if he says 2 mils, it's 2 mils.

To answer your question, the SFP would suit your use just fine.

My opinion though, if you are only going to be shooting F-Class/High Power, and need to stay in the Bushnell price range, I would look at some of the Sightron models to get a better reticle and higher magnification. The SIII 8-32 or 10-50 could be had used (maybe new) for the same or not much more than the Bushnell.

 

[simpleba]

Thank you for the recommendations. Didn't realize the SFP would be just fine for my intended use. I have looked through Sightron scopes and was disappointed in the light transmission.
I'll give the Sightron another look.

Thanks again!

 

[dkhunt14]

I find the light transmission on the Sightron S111 to be good and the glass is clear for the money. Matt

 

[jrm850]

I started with that Bushnell in F class too. Great scope for the money, and the FFP would be a requirement for me if I was shooting MOA based targets with a MIL scope. For whatever reason, I always second guessed the conversions during a match. With that being said, it would be hard to recommend a better budget scope for this game than the Sightron SIII 10x50 for $1k. I put a 8x32 on wife's rifle and a 10x50 on one I built for a friend. Both have been solid and they have really nice glass for the price range. One other issue with MIL scopes for f class is that the adjustments can be a bit coarse. 3.6" per click at 1k.

 

[simpleba]

Would the same scope but with mil dot reticle still be useable for long range target?
Will the reticle subtensions be small enough for precision shooting?

 

[ccooper]

SFP for me, but I always have a range finder with me for shooting or know the distances. I don't understand the big desire for FFP, unless you're shooting tactical matches that don't allow range finders. For precision, most FFP reticles I've looked thru are way too fat for me at high power.