f class and palma

[twmule]

i have never been in any comps and would like to know what is f class and what is palma a know that barrel makers offer barrels in palma contours. do you have to have a special barrel to shoot it or is it just for weight are there any trigger specs or what thanks.

 

[Taildrag15X]

Your best bet is to attend some Matches, watch and learn....you can also check out ALL the rules for NRA Sponsored Tournaments here:

http://www.nrahq.org/compete/nra-rule-books.asp

And GREAT info on the US PALMA Team, US F-Class Teams both F-Open and F-TR here:

http://www.usrifleteams.com/

 

[1000yardstare]

Palma is iron sights and a sling. F Class is scope sight and a bipod or pedestal.

A Palma match is shot at 800, 900 and 1000 yards. F Class is shot from 300 to 1000 yards depending on the facilities and organizers` preference.

Palma has to be shot with a .308 and 155 gr bullets. In F Class (Open) you can use any cartridge and bullet weight you want, bipod or pedestal. In F/TR you have to use .308 or .223. International rules permit bipod only in F/TR. Don`t know about U.S. NRA rules for F/TR, whether you can use a pedestal or not. Also check NRA rules for allowed bullet weights in F/TR.

 

[Mudcat]

Palma, in the US, can be shot with 308 or 223, no weight limit on bullets. But if you shoot fullbore rules or internationally, its 156/81 respectively. I dont shoot F class so I will rely on the others to fill ya in there as they are totally different types of shooting.


Taildrag pointed you our team's website and there is a lot of useful info there. But, like he said, attending, watching and learning would be a great idea, not to mention it will probably get you really interested in trying it out. I wouldnt be surprised if you get suckered into shooting while there!
John

 

[JERRYHM]

John,
The bullet weight rule is: International Fullbore 156/81 and for US Fullbore 156/92. The US rule was changed this year from 81 to 92 grains for the 223. I think the Canadian rule is 156/91 for their Fullbore.

F-class has no bullet weight limit in the USA.

 

[1000yardstare]

For the Canadian Championships this coming August, the DCRA has decided for Target Rifle (sling, iron sight) 156 gr max for .308, no bullet weight limit for .223.

For F/TR must be .223 or .308, any bullet weight, any front rest.

 

[Laurie]

For F/TR must be .223 or .308, any bullet weight, any front rest.

Any front support now in your F/TR? That's an interesting development, but maybe making sense given the ever more complex and expensive 'bipods' being used!

What about F/TR rifle weight in this instance? Does it stay 8.25 Kg for pedestal rest users, or does it drop a bit to compensate?

Laurie,
York, England

 

[Mudcat]

Opps, yep, forgot about the 92 thing. Now to find one that works! (yeah, I read your stuff on LR forum and just happen to have a 7.5 bbl that I may hook up and try out cause of it).

John

 

[1000yardstare]

Laurie, the DCRA is going through a hand-wringing stage now, wanting to fully impliment ICFRA rules but still looking back to the past.

The DCRA is trying to wean some F/TR shooters off their $300 pedestals with 56 adjustments because if they shoot on an International team under ICFRA rules they have to use a bipod.

There is a Canada-only F(F) competition named after "Farky" Farquharson, the DCRA shooter who originated F Class. Up to 2009 this was the Canadian equivalent of F/TR but with restrictions on bullet weights.

The DCRA rule book specifies 8.25 kg including attachments for F(F). Curiously there is no mention of F/TR rifle weight in the recent "Canadian Marksman" journals but I would assume the 8.25 kg rule applies to Canadian F/TR. Without offending the traditionalists, Canadian F(F) and ICFRA F/TR are slowly being blended together resulting in the current hybrid of rules.

The DCRA Target Rifle people are going through a similar transition towards ICFRA, smaller scoring ring size, no rifle weight limit and 0.5 kg minimum trigger weight.