I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I bought a ball mic a few weeks ago and wondered now how I ever got along without one. I tried to measure neck thickness with a good caliper and thought it was accurate enough. Well it ain't, least ways, not for me. So all you guys out there who are just starting to handload or like me have been at for years, I highly recommend you invest in a ball mic. jmo Barlow