S&sprecisionTx
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Which one do you think's more important a low SD or a low ES
This is how I boil it down for me in terms of velocities: SD's tell me how well I'm loading my cartridges and ES's mean little in that a single outlier can distort what's going on (though if I have a particular case that keeps generating a significant outlier, I'll be sure to pull it and not use it again). Even on paper, ES's aren't as important to me as the Mean Radius of a group is.Which one do you think's more important a low SD or a low ES
Do you know when an "outlier" will occur? Can you identify one by looking at the cartridge? If you have a batch loaded and are taking them to a match can you tell the person scoring to ignore a shot because it is an outlier? The target shows all shots, so you need to know what the total range of velocities is because it only takes one shot to spoil a group or score.Shoot enough, and you'll discover that they're in essence the same thing. Practically, SD is going to be a more reliable measure because it takes all of your shots fully into account. ES ignores a lot of information.
For example, shoot 25 or 30 shots, and calculate the SD and ES for the whole group. And then do exactly the same thing again. I'd bet good money that the SDs are the same (or very close) and the ESs are different. The ammo is the same, so which is the better measure? The SD.
If you're only going to shoot 3 or 4 shots, don't bother. It's not going to tell you anything useful.
Thank you, I started to think I was in the wrong sub-forum.Ppl, we’re talking about 22lr here not center fire
If a shot is truly and outlier, knowing the ES isn't going to help (my definition of an outlier is a shot that does not follow the statisitcs for whatever reason, not one that is on the edge of the curve).Do you know when an "outlier" will occur? Can you identify one by looking at the cartridge? If you have a batch loaded and are taking them to a match can you tell the person scoring to ignore a shot because it is an outlier? The target shows all shots, so you need to know what the total range of velocities is because it only takes one shot to spoil a group or score.