Effects of ejector on accuracy?

[broncman]

I know some people run ejectorless actions but this is a box stock savage 308 F/TR.
Fired case necks measure .342 and unfired winchester loaded ammo is almost ten thou less. While measure some loads for seating depth I noticed marks only on the exit side if the bullet from the ejector pushing the case to the side in the chamber.

Since this is a factory barrel with a loose chamber, would it help to trim the ejector spring to releive some of the pressure?

I am oerthinking this or does high ejector spring tension play a factor on how the bullet seats in the throat?

Ken

 

[alf]

I think after you shoot your brass the first time, it's a moot point. After bumping the shoulders back a thou or so, there's no way the spring pressure's gonna alter the position of the round in the chamber.

I do trim my springs so the empties don't get flung into next week, not for any perceived accuracy advantages.

 

[jonbearman]

I removed nine and pick it out,because I cant bend as good as when I was 25.

 

[CoverDog]

I cant bend as good as when I was 25.

LOL....I've joined that crowd !!!

 

[broncman]

Unfortunately I am closer to 50 than 30.... The day after a prone session, I ampretty sore. My barnard action will be an ejectorless long action to make removal easier.

 

[shooter63]

you could have a sharp place on the action when the ejector pulls back on the case it throws the case into the sharp corner i unscrewed the barrel on mine& smoothed that sharp place down also took the ejector spring out dont like to bend either i left the ejector in also so if i ever did have blow back it wouldnt end up in my eyes have owned 2 savages model12 f classes that were like this hope this helps regards shooter63

 

[Minesweeper3433]

I trim my ejector simply because I hate it when it gets thrown onto the concrete floor next to the bench. On some of my bench guns I completely removed the ejector and inserted a press fit pin and machined flush. If you do this and make contact with bolt face it will alter your headspace. I did this on a 700 SA that had a negative headspace on a used 308 barrel I picked up as the original face was rough and I needed to true it up anyway. However I would highly recommend if you do this that you do not use a one piece base as it limits the room you have to put your fingers into the ejection port to remove spent cases. I did this and had to go find 2 piece bases after the fact.

 

[FroggyOne2]

Never had a problem, my Remington kicks the 223 brass out like it had come out of an AR. Right at 4 o'clock and about 4 feet away.. that is if I run the bolt fast.

 

[BoydAllen]

I don't see any reason for an ejector spring to be any stronger than it needs to be for a case to just make it out of the action when the bolt is operated slowly. As far as accuracy goes, in short range benchrest, spring plunger ejectors are common. On the issue of cases being marked, the advice to dehorn the interior of the action seems good to me.

 

[STS]

Unfortunately I am closer to 50 than 30.... The day after a prone session, I ampretty sore. My barnard action will be an ejectorless long action to make removal easier.

Close to 50 ;D ;D ;D You ain't seen nuthin yet....kid.

 

[broncman]

Unfortunately I am closer to 50 than 30.... The day after a prone session, I ampretty sore. My barnard action will be an ejectorless long action to make removal easier.

Close to 50 ;D ;D ;D You ain't seen nuthin yet....kid.

Thats what I am afraid of! My dad is going on seventy and told me the other day that whoever called it the " golden age" had not got their yet.. Said the only thing golden about it was his pee frim all the medicines he has to take...

I work with an older gent who always says that if he knew he was going to live as long as he has,,,he would have either taken better care of himself or lived even harder than he had!

 

[6BRinNZ]

I have found that an ejector can cause a slight dish on the neck mouth on the opposite side to the ejector. Probably not the best for even neck tension. My Barnard I went no ejector.

 

[FroggyOne2]

I don't see any reason for an ejector spring to be any stronger than it needs to be for a case to just make it out of the action when the bolt is operated slowly. As far as accuracy goes, in short range benchrest, spring plunger ejectors are common. On the issue of cases being marked, the advice to dehorn the interior of the action seems good to me.

Boyd, when shooting highpower, in rapids, the bolt does not get to go slow, you move that bolt as fast as you can!

 

[FroggyOne2]

I have found that an ejector can cause a slight dish on the neck mouth on the opposite side to the ejector. Probably not the best for even neck tension. My Barnard I went no ejector.

Both of my Barnards are less the ejector. But sometimes I feel that having the ejector would help preserve that position too with less movement. That is if you want to keep the rifle in the shoulder. I myself brake the rifle out of the shoulder for each shot with out a ejector. But my Remington has the ejector and I can keep the rifle in the shoulder and I break it out about every 5-6 shot to just give it a rest a bit.

 

[BoydAllen]

The reason that I mentioned slow was that in my experience, with modified Remington ejectors, that is the speed most likely to cause a problem. If they will make it out when the bolt is operated slowly, there will be no problem at a faster pace. On the other hand, it has been a while, and sometimes my memory is like a rusty steel trap, that needs a little lubrication.

 

[Rtheurer]

Ken

Im with Froggy on this one. I used to take all my ejectors out of my prone gun as well. I have found that after reaching to the highmaster level and into the top twenty at Camp Perry for Long Range that its better to have an ejector in your rifle than not.( the only reasonI say that is to say im not a marksmen prone shooter) Exactly like Froggy says is that your creating more SHOULDER movment by reaching up to pluck the case out. ( benchrest need not apply... diffrent discapline) In a twenty shot string this increases your chance of moving the buttstock around in your shoulder and increasing your chances of inproper sight alignment. And you know how important that is!
If you shooting a team match you need to be ready to shoot when the coach wants you too... Not messing around with your brass.
You may want to rethink that option.

Best of luck to you either way.

RussT