easy to break into??

[Chiquita]

A local business was broken into and the crooks had pried open a safe from a well known manufacturer. The security video footage was quick but I was able to make out that the locking bolts on the door were still in the expanded/lock position.

So, it is that easy to break into one?

 

[mike mccormick]

Not if it was locked to begin with. If safes were easy to open with a prybar, there would be no safe crackers.

 

[TheOtherZilla]

Gun safes are notoriously easy to get into.. If you know how.

 

[Damfino]

 

[Chiquita]

The posted video took less than 2 minutes. Wow.

 

[Chiquita]

So I guess they are just a glorified metal cabinet.

 

[m1jeff]

That safe wasn’t bolted to the floor and wall.

 

[moondog]

That's why I got one of their safe doors!

 

[6ShotsOr5?]

You can find many interesting videos, some about how easily safes can be entered here:

Sturdy Gun Safe Video List

See the full list of Sturdy Gun Safe videos here. Very entertaining and educational! Learn about how to move, anchor down, and touch up safes. Watch us test our safes and break our competitors safes. Learn what makes us so much better for the money.

www.sturdysafe.com

 

[SEGARE]

Does the door gap look suspiciously large on the target safe? My cheap Liberty safe's gap is only 3mm on the opening side and even smaller on the hinge side.

 

[jepp2]

I watched the video.

1'st, most B&E felons are looking for a quick $. They are more interested in your CC than your valuables. Worth more to them.

2'nd, doubt many folks carry the pry bars of the length with them for their jobs. They want to get in and out in a couple of minutes. Not draw any attention to themselves coming or going.

3'rd, how are they going to carry an arm load of rifles and not look "out of place"?

Mine are bolted to the walls. They lose most of the leverage they gained when they turned the safe on it's back. Probably will have only hand tools to gain access to the house.

Come an try, I am home nearly all the time after dark and have a welcome party for them. Might just be bear spray, or it could be many 9mm lead projectiles.

But, I don't live in a remote location where they can back up a van and load everything in the back. I'm in a neighborhood where something like that would draw a lot of unwanted attention.

 

[pikespeakgoat]

So I guess they are just a glorified metal cabinet.

In reality, yes, that's why per UL the majority are just classified as RSC (residential security containers).

Residential Security Container Standard Revised

Residential Security Containers (RSC) serve many purposes. Some are used to store important papers or valuable jewelry, but for many people, they are used to store and secure guns. RSCs…

www.ul.com

 

[DirtySteve]

Angle grinder and go through the side in a minute....cut a nice size hole and reach in...

 

[KMart]

I watched the video.

1'st, most B&E felons are looking for a quick $. They are more interested in your CC than your valuables. Worth more to them.

2'nd, doubt many folks carry the pry bars of the length with them for their jobs. They want to get in and out in a couple of minutes. Not draw any attention to themselves coming or going.

3'rd, how are they going to carry an arm load of rifles and not look "out of place"?

Mine are bolted to the walls. They lose most of the leverage they gained when they turned the safe on it's back. Probably will have only hand tools to gain access to the house.

Come an try, I am home nearly all the time after dark and have a welcome party for them. Might just be bear spray, or it could be many 9mm lead projectiles.

But, I don't live in a remote location where they can back up a van and load everything in the back. I'm in a neighborhood where something like that would draw a lot of unwanted attention.

If you are not there,
#1 You cant stop a thief.
#2 You can make him take more time than he wants to.
#3 A thief doesn't mind destroying $50,000 of your property to steal $50 worth of goods.
#4 Jail time is not a deterrent to a thief.

 

[ttfreestyle]

Layering security is best in my opinion, limit the time they have to work on your safe or valuables. We have the tools in our garages that could get into “most” safes given enough time.

 

[Bc'z]

A local business was broken into and the crooks had pried open a safe from a well known manufacturer. The security video footage was quick but I was able to make out that the locking bolts on the door were still in the expanded/lock position.

So, it is that easy to break into one?

Pull the panel off your safe door and take a look inside.
The bolts on my AmSec are attached to metal straps which is rather soft.

Angle grinder and go through the side in a minute....cut a nice size hole and reach in...

And a sawzall!!

 

[Nick Caprinolo]

In my past life, most of the safes were broken into by putting it on the side and then going through the bottom. It is the weakest part of the safe. It's called pealing the bottom and is very easy to do using nothing more than a hammer and a chisel. Another method is to use a maul and knock the combination off and then insert tools to manipulate the unlocking mechanism.

There is nothing that can't be broken into given enough time. Most safes even in commercial establishments are fireproof but only for a given time and up to a certain heat temperature. The more you pay, the stronger the safe.

Why have a safe if you don't install a good alarm?

 

[Chiquita]

I guess the vault doors sold by safe manufacturers are the same material as the safe doors?

 

[Downhill]

Locks and safes only stop honest thieves. My advice is to make it harder. Anchor your safe to the floor and a wall if possible. Position safe next to a wall so the door opens away from it. Should make it harder to pry open. I also use a OC pepper spray cannister on a trip wire for the safe out in the shop. Will have to look at brand," Burglar Bomb" maybe?

 

[rebel]

Camouflage is the best weapon against Meth heads looking for a quick high.