Dry Firing

[wanttobe]

I would sure like your thoughts on dry firing a 223 RPR. I have read that some have had some problems with dry firing, pin damage. Other say that it will not harm. I always dry fire at the least 20 time before starting a secision at the range , I would like to start dry firing more at home from the back deck where I can see how much the cross hairs move when pulling the trigger. I feel this is some what of a dumb question but I need the help. Thanks

 

[a1712]

Purchase or make a few snap caps. Brian.

 

[jepp2]

I would sure like your thoughts on dry firing a 223 RPR.

I'm sure you are aware of this: https://ruger.com/dataProcess/rprSafety/

Regarding use of a snap cap, they may be better than nothing, but with the number of strikes you want, the A-zoom tend to deform pretty quickly with repeated strikes. I use them for trigger adjustments, but I don't know how much they really absorb the energy of the striker spring with repeated hits.

 

[Mark W]

Not sure about the 223 RPR but my Gen 1 243 has been dry fired a bunch of times with no ill effect.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Dry fire all you want but with nothing in the chamber.

 

[Downhill]

In Across the Course the majority of competitors dry fire. On the firing line to make adjustments to the position to minimize muzzle movement. During non fire practice to improve muscle memory. Been dry firing Winchester Model 70's, M1's and AR's for years with no harm to the rifle.

 

[JEFFPPC]

I would sure like your thoughts on dry firing a 223 RPR. I have read that some have had some problems with dry firing, pin damage. Other say that it will not harm. I always dry fire at the least 20 time before starting a secision at the range , I would like to start dry firing more at home from the back deck where I can see how much the cross hairs move when pulling the trigger. I feel this is some what of a dumb question but I need the help. Thanks

I use to shoot a lot of offhand and moving target matches. I have dry fired thousands of times with Rem 700 and 760 with no problem. Never had any thing in chamber but dummy rounds in 760 with bullets but no primers.

 

[SGK]

^^^What he said. In running boar and running deer competition we had a dry-fire station next to the shooter (half wall between so shooter wasn't distracted). Thousands of dry fire practice with running targets.

More of an issue for shotguns as I understand it.

 

[K22]

Not a target competitor but I dry fire a lot off my shooting sticks at a small orange dot. It's great practice to refine breathing control, trigger position, trigger control, etc. Been doing it for years with Rems, Brownings, and Tikka's without any problems.

 

[wanttobe]

Hey Thanks to all, I plan too start doing a lot of dry fire with my Ruger. Lets hope for the best.I feel it will take quiet a bit of practice to keep the cross hairs from moving off the target.

 

[Bart B.]

Hey Thanks to all, I plan too start doing a lot of dry fire with my Ruger. Lets hope for the best.I feel it will take quiet a bit of practice to keep the cross hairs from moving off the target.

I think you'll learn faster if you blind mix 5 dummy rounds with 10 live rounds.

Use the same cases, primers and bullets for all. Kill 5 primers with a 10 minute water soak, then seat them and seat bullets. Load 10 live rounds. Mix 'em up so the only way to tell what they are is to weigh them. 10 will be charge weight lighter.

Shoot them and remember your emotions when one goes click. Remember how you moved the rifle afterwards.

Repeat this test until nothing moves when all 5 rounds click.

 

[jds holler]

I'll go so far as to say that dry fire is MORE important to learning and practicing than live fire.

When teaching kids or any beginner to shoot, I've always seen a huge leap in the learning curve after some sessions of dry fire. It really cements the mental picture of sight pic when the gun "clicks" as the hammer falls.

When a gun discharges with a live round, this sight pic is often lost, and the shooter is simply bewildered that they missed - or hit - whichever the case may be.

Take a kid out sometime with a shotgun, and let him "click" at a bunch of hand thrown rocks, and see how quickly he learns to hit aerial targets. jd

 

[misfire]

I do a lot of dry fire exercises with all my weapons found a trick that works well for me.
I picked up an El Cheapo laser boresighter the kind that goes in the muzzle of the barrel using o rings. I install the bore sight and set my cell phone up for video then when I'm dry firing I can double-check myself that there was absolutely no movement when the firing pin Falls( set phone near action so you can hear everything) kind of a poor man's scat trainer

 

[rogn]

I think you'll learn faster if you blind mix 5 dummy rounds with 10 live rounds.

Use the same cases, primers and bullets for all. Kill 5 primers with a 10 minute water soak, then seat them and seat bullets. Load 10 live rounds. Mix 'em up so the only way to tell what they are is to weigh them. 10 will be charge weight lighter.

Shoot them and remember your emotions when one goes click. Remember how you moved the rifle afterwards.

Repeat this test until nothing moves when all 5 rounds click.

A lot of people have been searching for ways to deactivate primers with little reported success. I hope your system is better. Otherwise the report may be disconcerting even compared to live ammo D/C.

 

[Bart B.]

I'll go so far as to say that dry fire is MORE important to learning and practicing than live fire.

Yes, sometimes that helps. Most times, it isn't. Here's why.

Most dry firing events happen when one's by themselves. Nobody's there watching their trigger finger and aiming eye. When the firearm clicks, aiming eyes must not blink closed and trigger fingers must not flick off the trigger until recoil has stopped. If that happens, the shot (dry or live fire) cannot be called with any credibility. Especially if the trigger pull is a few pounds and has a lot of backlash.

 

[Bart B.]

A lot of people have been searching for ways to deactivate primers with little reported success. I hope your system is better. Otherwise the report may be disconcerting even compared to live ammo D/C.

A drop of oil has worked well for me when I was testing different firing pin spring weights noting how far different 308 Win case shoulder's set back from pin impact.

I once had to load 42 rounds of 7.62 NATO in a rifle to shoot 22 bullets at a target. 20 had no powder but their bullets stayed in place when the primers fired. A ball and dummy session in a 1000 yard match

 

[4xforfun]

I think you'll learn faster if you blind mix 5 dummy rounds with 10 live rounds.

Use the same cases, primers and bullets for all. Kill 5 primers with a 10 minute water soak, then seat them and seat bullets. Load 10 live rounds. Mix 'em up so the only way to tell what they are is to weigh them. 10 will be charge weight lighter.

Shoot them and remember your emotions when one goes click. Remember how you moved the rifle afterwards.

Repeat this test until nothing moves when all 5 rounds click.

LOLOL...Two friends of mine were at a local shooting spot just before hunting season (years ago) and another local big time hunter was there with his 300 WM. He couldn't hit the pie plate at 100 and was yelling at the gun, scope, the wind, EVERYTHING. So, my friends decided to "help" get on target. One of them "loaded " his gun for him while they were talking and they were " spotting" for him. When the gun went CLICK on an empty chamber, the recoil was so bad the shooter knocked his own hat off!!

I am guessing a few dry fire exercises would have helped him!!

Tod

 

[Concha]

Check your firing pin protrusion and write it down in your log. Check it after every dry firing session. If it starts to change, disassemble your bolt and see why.

 

[ericskennard]

I would sure like your thoughts on dry firing a 223 RPR. I have read that some have had some problems with dry firing, pin damage. Other say that it will not harm. I always dry fire at the least 20 time before starting a secision


Get some Harbour Arms snap caps. They have a brass spring loaded plunger that absorbs the firing pin strike. I know for a fact that you will wear out before they do.

 

[Bc'z]

I was taught to shoot with an 06' when I was young, way to young for that cartridge caused me to flinch/anticipate.

Fast forward to basic training.
My drill sergeant had me lay in prone firing position, bunk mate balance a nickle on barrel. Pick out an aiming point,Break your shot clean without dropping nickle.
Had to keep doing this exercise until I could break 20 shots without dropping coin.