Dovetail rings

[lh leggtowner]

In the process of buying a Kebley action. It has a dovetail mounting system. I am looking for some rings that have 20 or so moa built in. Kebley hasn’t made rings in some time. They used to make them. But if anyone knows where to run across some , I would appreciate it. I’m not sure what type scope yet. Just trying to nail down everything. Thanks for your help.
LH

 

[Leeman]

It's probably not the answer you want but do they still offer the dovetail to picatinny rail with some slope built in? You would have far more choice with rings if you went down that road, albeit probably a far higher scope mounting position.

 

[lh leggtowner]

It's probably not the answer you want but do they still offer the dovetail to picatinny rail with some slope built in? You would have far more choice with rings if you went down that road, albeit probably a far higher scope mounting position.

I seen those. Wasn’t really sure about them. Of course I was going to ask about that if this didn’t come to any kind of fruition. But it would be a definite option.

 

[Savagenut71]

In the process of buying a Kebley action. It has a dovetail mounting system. I am looking for some rings that have 20 or so moa built in. Kebley hasn’t made rings in some time. They used to make them. But if anyone knows where to run across some , I would appreciate it. I’m not sure what type scope yet. Just trying to nail down everything. Thanks for your help.
LH

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[lh leggtowner]

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I’ve looked at them. I just don’t see any with a 20 moa or so built into them. Thanks.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Harrells makes them. I suggest you consider the offset models. Love them and I hope I never go back to straights. Made for the Kelbly/Davidson style rail setup. Don't over think it. They work...at all yardages. Good stuff!

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[Longrange57]

In the process of buying a Kebley action. It has a dovetail mounting system. I am looking for some rings that have 20 or so moa built in. Kebley hasn’t made rings in some time. They used to make them. But if anyone knows where to run across some , I would appreciate it. I’m not sure what type scope yet. Just trying to nail down everything. Thanks for your help.
LH

Have you looked at the Hawkins scope rings?

 

[lh leggtowner]

Harrells makes them. I suggest you consider the offset models. Love them and I hope I never go back to straights. Made for the Kelbly/Davidson style rail setup. Don't over think it. They work...at all yardages. Good stuff!

SCOPE RINGS and BASES

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www.harrellsprecision.com

Thanks a bunch

Have you looked at the Hawkins scope not yet but I will. Thanks

 

[B y r o n]

As Leeman pointed out this is probably your best and easiest solution.

 

[lh leggtowner]

As Leeman pointed out this is probably your best and easiest solution.

I thought if I done this , instead of pinching it to the dovetail , I would screw it to it. I don’t know. That seems like it would be more secure.

 

[Leeman]

I thought if I done this , instead of pinching it to the dovetail , I would screw it to it. I don’t know. That seems like it would be more secure.

I should have continued to say that I needed some slope but instead of buying the inclined rail which would have been too tall at the back (following a conversation with Kelbly's) for my stock/scope combination, I went for the standard dovetail to picatinny conversion and used Burris Signature rings with the maximum amount of offset, which for 30mm was 10 thou x 2 (each ring) and allows me to get out to 500 yards easily which was the maximum distance I was intending to use the rifle at.

To answer your point above, the Kelbly system is very secure and I know guys shooting up to 284win with heavy bullets that have no issue with the rail moving.

 

[lh leggtowner]

I should have continued to say that I needed some slope but instead of buying the inclined rail which would have been too tall at the back (following a conversation with Kelbly's) for my stock/scope combination, I went for the standard dovetail to picatinny conversion and used Burris Signature rings with the maximum amount of offset, which for 30mm was 10 thou x 2 (each ring) and allows me to get out to 500 yards easily which was the maximum distance I was intending to use the rifle at.

To answer your point above, the Kelbly system is very secure and I know guys shooting up to 284win with heavy bullets that have no issue with the rail moving.

That makes a lot of sense. I also would be using a 284. That is what had me worried.

 

[Jeff Porter]

I have had dovetail rings slide with recoil on my Panda receiver. They were not Harrel's quality but I put an add on 20 moa picatinny base from Kelbly. That moved under recoil too so I added a screw head to the back end to keep it in place.

I have learned that Warner tool will take your receiver and mill a custom fit 20 moa picatinny rail to mount on the dovetail. Lower profile and stay put better than the add on 20 moa picatinny base from Kelbly.

 

[Jeff Porter]

Modification to Kelbly 20 moa rail on the Panda

 

[lh leggtowner]

I have had dovetail rings slide with recoil on my Panda receiver. They were not Harrel's quality but I put an add on 20 moa picatinny base from Kelbly. That moved under recoil too so I added a screw head to the back end to keep it in place.

I have learned that Warner tool will take your receiver and mill a custom fit 20 moa picatinny rail to mount on the dovetail. Lower profile and stay put better than the add on 20 moa picatinny base from Kelbly.

That is very interesting. Thanks

 

[lh leggtowner]

I have had dovetail rings slide with recoil on my Panda receiver. They were not Harrel's quality but I put an add on 20 moa picatinny base from Kelbly. That moved under recoil too so I added a screw head to the back end to keep it in place.

I have learned that Warner tool will take your receiver and mill a custom fit 20 moa picatinny rail to mount on the dovetail. Lower profile and stay put better than the add on 20 moa picatinny base from Kelbly.

Do you happen to have their contact information

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

If ya'll remember the Stiller Viper actions at all, you know they are a close copy of the Kelbly Panda. One notable difference is that he hard coat anodized all of his aluminum actions, which does make it hard and slick in respect to rings holding well to that surface, particularly with a heavy scope and a moderate or more bit of recoil. I've had one of them and had that issue but not by much. I mean, going from single screw Kelbly rings to double fixed it. Prior to that, I also did the mod of a screw and small washer in the rear ring as pictured above. Both worked for me but I've never had a slipping issue on a non-anodized Panda, only the Vipers. Logically, the anodizing was the difference. There's more than more way to address this IF..big if, you have the issue, which is pretty rare with a Panda action. More grip area is a huge difference maker here. Personally, I would have no issue with dowel pins pressed into the rail just in front of the area that the rear ring would occupy but re-sale value would be a consideration to some. It shouldn't unless it's bubba'd up but nevertheless, it might to some people so the screw in the rear ring trick gets around that and works great.

 

[Leeman]

I would have no issue with dowel pins pressed into the rail just in front of the area that the rear ring would occupy but re-sale value would be a consideration to some. It shouldn't unless it's bubba'd up but nevertheless, it might to some people so the screw in the rear ring trick gets around that and works great.

That's a common practice on rails designed for springer air guns, very susceptible to moving and in fact my Air arms has holes in the dovetail itself so studs can be located in the rails to prevent movement. From memory I think they migrate backwards, rather than forwards!

 

[lh leggtowner]

Well no one makes a 20 moa ring that I can find. I think I am just going to get some dovetail rings and send it. With a nf cc I think I can get to 1000 with a 284 win. What do y’all think?

 

[ronemus]

This rail adapter lets you mount Picatinny/Weaver rings to a dovetail with minimal increase in height (<1/4"); the inserts in Burris Signature ringsgive you up to 20 MOA on 1" rings and 40 MOA on 30 or 34 mm rings. This is a solution I've used on my Anschutz smallbore free rifle.