Do solid copper bullets destroy gongs?

[okie]

?

 

[markT]

How about modify the title to: "Do Copper Bullets Destroy Gongs?"

 

[Gargoyle]

No

 

[jds holler]

Depends on the steel used in the gong. jd

 

[Gargoyle]

Depends on the steel used in the gong. jd

No it doesn't. If mild steel is used for rifle shooting then it would just add to the holes and not destroy it.

 

[okie]

Depends on the steel used in the gong. jd

hardened plate -AR 400 or 500 i believe

 

[jelenko]

I assumed the question also meant "Are solid copper bullets harder on gongs than lead core bullets?"

With lead being denser [but also softer] than copper, do lead core bullets deliver more energy than solid copper ones? On the other hand, do solid copper ones act more like a penetrator?

 

[Gargoyle]

I assumed the question also meant "Are solid copper bullets harder on gongs than lead core bullets?"

With lead being denser [but also softer] than copper, do lead core bullets deliver more energy than solid copper ones? On the other hand, do solid copper ones act more like a penetrator?

Yes, solid copper penetrates more than conventional, but on hardened steel it doesn't matter. The downside to shooting steel with copper is the impacts can be hard to see on white painted gongs. Black is better, but that color sucks for long balling.

 

[okie]

Yes, solid copper penetrates more than conventional, but on hardened steel it doesn't matter. The downside to shooting steel with copper is the impacts can be hard to see on white painted gongs. Black is better, but that color sucks for long balling.

thanks for the info.
my buddy gave my kids 2500 of them and i didnt know whether to trade them or let them shoot em up??

 

[Walt Krafft]

I don't know anybody who would give away 2500 solid copper bullets. Sounds like you got full metal jacket ball bullets. If 55gr ball you are ok. If the have a hardened penatrator they will tearup your steel.

 

[okie]

I don't know anybody who would give away 2500 solid copper bullets. Sounds like you got full metal jacket ball bullets. If 55gr ball you are ok. If the have a hardened penatrator they will tearup your steel.

nope. they are lathe turned solid copper alloy of some sort with a drilled hollow point.

 

[Gargoyle]

nope. they are lathe turned solid copper alloy of some sort with a drilled hollow point.

Can you take a picture of them?

 

[okie]

Can you take a picture of them?

not in hand

 

[X-Caveman]

What diameter & weight projos? How fast do you pan on pushing them & how far away (minimum) will the gongs be? I'm more concerned about the kids than the steel.

 

[okie]

What diameter & weight projos? How fast do you pan on pushing them & how far away (minimum) will the gongs be? I'm more concerned about the kids than the steel.

6.5 108 gr 500 yds approx 3000fps at muzzle

 

[X-Caveman]

I would let my kids do that without concern for them or my steel.

 

[FNSafari]

I assumed the question also meant "Are solid copper bullets harder on gongs than lead core bullets?"

With lead being denser [but also softer] than copper, do lead core bullets deliver more energy than solid copper ones? On the other hand, do solid copper ones act more like a penetrator?

If not driven fast enough to attain certain terminal velocity the don't expand as well as lead core bullets. of course it depends of what kind of lead core bullet you are using...traditional cup and core, bonded, two cavity. I load barnes for my wife's 6.5x55 for deer. I load them as fast as is safe concurrent with acceptable accuracy. I don't see I have any choice as she won't hunt with a lead core bullet.

 

[dantiff2]

thanks for the info.
my buddy gave my kids 2500 of them and i didnt know whether to trade them or let them shoot em up??

Do you and your buddy need any more friends?? BAHAHAHA What a nice guy!!
Curious what he gave them.

 

[moondog]

It's really the speed. A 22-250 or 20VarTarg at 3700fps will go through ar500 like a hot knife through butter. Most steel matches have a speed limit for a reason. That being said, my 1200 yard steel is getting a bit of a curve in it from the heavy hitters. When I shot a few of the lathe turned 6mms, I didn't notice any difference on the plate. As said above, impacts are harder to see.

 

[okie]

It's really the speed. A 22-250 or 20VarTarg at 3700fps will go through ar500 like a hot knife through butter. Most steel matches have a speed limit for a reason. That being said, my 1200 yard steel is getting a bit of a curve in it from the heavy hitters. When I shot a few of the lathe turned 6mms, I didn't notice any difference on the plate. As said above, impacts are harder to see.

thank you