Dies for 6mm Norma br ??

[Siiri]

Hello,

I am looking at Redding dies from Sinclair’s. It has the Competition Bushing Neck Sizing Die, a Body Die, and a Competition Bullet Seater. I am looking for an accurate die set.
Also what is the procedure for these types of dies? Size the body when it gets harder to eject the casing from the rifle? Just new brass? What bushing should I use for a 6mm Norma br?
The Rem in the name is confusing, are these correct dies for a 6mm Norma br?

Here is the link to the die set I am looking at:
http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/sid=71344/pid=33623/Product/REDDING_COMPETITION_BUSHING_NECK_DIE_S

Thanks!
Siiri

 

[expiper]

I wuld get the Full length die set (full length die and seater) part # 80317 and also the Type "S" Full length Bushing die (with a .266-.267 bushing) part # 77317....If you have an arbor press I would get a Wilson seater and not the 80317..Roger

PS..you can buy both of these items for about 1/2 of the $$$ of thecompetetion set and they load just as good .....just less bells and whilstles.....

 

[NorCalMikie]

I prefer the Forster Precision Bushing Bump Die but I don't think you could go wrong with the Redding you're looking at.
The necks on my loaded 6BR ammo measure .269 so a .267 bushing should work for you. You can try different size bushings after you get the hang of it to see what the different neck tension might do for you.
If the fired case will go back in the chamber, neck size it and reload. If the bolt gets stiff, (it's a feel thing) bump the shoulder back "no more" than .001 or .002. The less you work your brass, the longer it will last. If after bumping the shoulder back, you've still got a stiff bolt, throw in a body size. After you reload a few times, you'll get the feel for what you need to do.
It's not that complicated. Just takes a little time to get the feel for what you're doing.
I've got 6BR Lapua brass that has been reloaded 15 to 20 times and it's still going strong.

 

[cmillard]

i use a forster fl die and a set of wilson dies. i use the fl die on the first sizing then use the wilson dies after that. after about 5 firings, i run the brass through the fl die again.

 

[K0na_stinky]

Can you go over what I would need to expand the necks?

So with the set Siiri picked there, the body die is what you use to bump the shoulder? Do you bump the shoulder and then neck size?

Thanks.

 

[Heavies]

I use the Redding s type FL bushing die and comp seater. I don't mess with the neck size body size stuff. Just FL size every reload with a .0015-.002" bump, and not have to worry if some shells will be hard to chamber. I use Redding bushings .268 for .001 tension for soft seating and .267 for .002 tension in blue box brass. I find .266 too tight, but if you want to experiment it would be good to have.

For the first firing on the new brass, I just lube the expander ball on the die and a little on the neck and run it in a little to punch out the neck slightly. After fireforming the brass to my chamber, I take off the expander ball and just use the bushing.

 

[1000yardstare]

Heavies has described my preferred method. Use the F/L bushing die and bump every time.

Go with Sinclair set 36317 (bushing Match F/L) and the set of three bushings listed by Heavies. The only difference I have seen between the hardened steel and Ti bushings is the price.

It`s nice to have all the bells and whistles but if you are just starting out they can lead to confusion because you have too much "stuff" sitting in front of you and you are not sure what order to use them in. After a while with more experience you can start deciding what additional items you need to tweak your loads.

Start simple and enjoy yourself with a nice rifle. Good luck.

Bill

 

[NorCalMikie]

I'll say again, keep it as simple as you can get. The biggest majority of the folks on here have been at it for a while. They've been there, done that more than once. When it gets "too complicated", it becomes work and it's not fun anymore. You want "trigger time" and less time at the loading bench.

 

[jo191145]

I'll say again, keep it as simple as you can get. The biggest majority of the folks on here have been at it for a while. They've been there, done that more than once. When it gets "too complicated", it becomes work and it's not fun anymore. You want "trigger time" and less time at the loading bench.

Thats good advice.


Personally I fL size every firing but I run full house loads and refuse to throw away brass ;D Therefore I just buy a S series FL die and forget the neck die. Your choice tho.
You don't really need an expander. The expander ball on a Redding die has always done just fine for me. Your choice, got the cash buy one but its not required.