Coyote issue?

[Sieg]

Looking for advise.

I live on a city/county boundary with a filbert orchard behind the house and a 'major' river between the house and mountains. I've lived here 15 years and in the last two years I've been spotting the occasional coyote cruising through the orchard. I've called a few in to 50yds or so in the last 5 months.

In the last couple weeks night time howling is becoming the thing. Sounds like a competition with a larger team across the river (300yds out) in the farmland and foothills of the mountain range. This is happening around 11:30 p.m. to 2:30 a.m. and I'm guessing there's 5+ coyotes within a 200-300yds of the house.

If I see a single I don't pay much attention, but when I hear a pack that's concerning. Mainly out of safety for my dogs and the local deer population.

I sleep pretty soundly and the howling has woke me up twice in the last week.​

I don't have a lot of coyote hunting experience/knowledge so my primary question is: If I call one in and drop it in the orchard and leave it lay will that potentially cause the pack to relocate for a reasonable amount of time or permanently?

 

[OmegaRed]

I would say no. One goes down, one fills in. Kill em.

 

[1911nut]

They’ll just eat the dead one, another reason to hang around.

 

[JSH]

Don’t shoot unless you can kill them. Other wise all you do is educate them.

 

[Sieg]

I would say no. One goes down, one fills in. Kill em.

Thanks for the confirmation.

They’ll just eat the dead one, another reason to hang around.

My RFP (Raptor Feeding Program) is alive and well on home front too.

Don’t shoot unless you can kill them. Other wise all you do is educate them.

Nope, I do know how smart they are from couple calling hunts in the Oregon high desert. I also don't like maiming animals at all.

This definitely isn't helping the wait time on my centerfire suppressor that's sitting in jail. I have a can for my .17WSM but that won't deliver a clean enough kill for me. My tool of choice will be a .223 w/ a 60g V-Max or Berger FBV.

Thank you all for the input.

 

[Bc'z]

Thanks for the confirmation.


My RFP (Raptor Feeding Program) is alive and well on home front too.


Nope, I do know how smart they are from couple calling hunts in the Oregon high desert. I also don't like maiming animals at all.

This definitely isn't helping the wait time on my centerfire suppressor that's sitting in jail. I have a can for my .17WSM but that won't deliver a clean enough kill for me. My tool of choice will be a .223 w/ a 60g V-Max or Berger FBV.

Thank you all for the input.

I caught a coyote skirting the back of neighbors property yesterday morning.
I was gonna introduce it to a 70gr nosler varmintgeddon.
He obviously knew the sound of an AR's action and lit outta here!
I'll be watching and waiting.

 

[Sieg]

Spoke with a friend today who's called and killed hundreds in the past 15-20 years. He said there's obviously a big male that's moved in and created the pack. He noted that male will usually be the first to respond to a call and taking him out could disrupt/confuse the rest for a few months creating an opportunity to kill a few more. He also noted that using a red filter or lens on tactical or spot light is very effecting at holding their attention long enough to place a solid shot.

This was the first hunt I went on with him, we called in 8 and killed 6 that day, from 30' to 150yds.

 

[Sieg]

I caught a coyote skirting the back of neighbors property yesterday morning.
I was gonna introduce it to a 70gr nosler varmintgeddon.
He obviously knew the sound of an AR's action and lit outta here!
I'll be watching and waiting.

The digger squirrels behind my house can hear me slowly cycling the bolt or flipping the safety on my Ruger American and RPR .17's and dive for cover even at 80-125yds! Most skittish squirrels I've ever witnessed, though they've definitely upped my stalking game.

 

[Brians356]

My tool of choice will be a .223 w/ a 60g V-Max or Berger FBV.

Just curious why the 60-gr V-max? Do you expect several-hundred-yard shots? I would suggest a 40-gr BT such as Toby B. employs.

PS I see you use an AR. Perhaps that's why you shoot 60s and 70s. Are lightweight bullets problematic in ARs?
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[Sieg]

Just curious why the 60-gr V-max? Do you expect several-hundred-yard shots? I would suggest a 40-gr BT such as Toby B. employs.
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I have 1:8 and 1:7.7 twist barrels on my .223's rifles. The XP-100 I just bought from the above mention coyote killer has a 1:14 but I haven't located a stock and bipod set up for it yet, it would be ideal except for the flash factor at night. He noted that the XP really liked 55 V-Max, my limited testing confirmed it.

 

[boltfluter]

They are establishing their territory as breeding season is coming up. Very normal activity this time of year.

Paul

 

[Sieg]

They are establishing their territory as breeding season is coming up. Very normal activity this time of year.

Paul

Well this guy is making a mistake trying to establish in my free birth control zone.

 

[bluealtered]

Every single thing you do will educate them, from the call your using to your sent, or here from a car/truck stopping a mile away. They don't have the biggest brain in the woods or desert but they use more of their brain to stay alive than most of the other critter's out there.

 

[Sieg]

Every single thing you do will educate them, from the call your using to your sent, or here from a car/truck stopping a mile away. They don't have the biggest brain in the woods or desert but they use more of their brain to stay alive than most of the other critter's out there.

Facts!

When hunting in Paisley we go to a location, hike in, call one in and shoot it, drive 5+ miles and repeat. I imagine shooting a 300BO subsonic suppressed would cut the drive distance between sets by half at least.

One thing I found very interesting was 6 out of the 8 we called followed a Magpie into our call zone. Smart little bastages are using forward air observers!

 

[bluealtered]

Yes they use every trick there is and they will use crows as well who will start calling out to other crows if they see a trap, which of course warns the coyotes as well.

 

[Plumsask]

Every time when I am out calling and I see magpies come in or hop bush to bush I get ready for a coyote to pop out. I'd say 80% of the time there's a coyote with them ( or they are with the coyote)

 

[JSH]

Then again they become conditioned. I have seen them trot across a private rifle range. Same thing with the deer and bobcats.

 

[Shawnba67]

The little $10 red led flashlights will show eyes to 1k yards. But you probly cant ID at 150yds
BE AWARE that with a red light all eyes will shine red! I almost shot a deer one night because it had its head low and had red eyes like a dog. Deer have white/blue eye reflections right?
Not with a red light they dont.

 

[joshb]

I just saw my first Coyote, not 5 minutes ago, 50’ from the back patio. I was pouring coffee and saw movement out the window. I stepped out the door for a better look. It stood there for a few seconds, the trotted off. I have two little dogs. Guess I’ll put a gun by the door from now on.

 

[bluealtered]

We have a small group of deer at our range that are born and raised there, they are safe there and don't leave during their lifetime. On the other hand it isn't very likely that they have any hearing left since we have a lot of magnum shooters here as well. They always have the right away and a match will stop until they play/graze through.
Predators of any kind are fair game and from time to time they do go out in the back of a truck if the pelt is any good.