Went to the range hoping to get some Hybrids to group well in my wife's 6 creed rifle with her shooting of course, brought a couple loads for my rifle using Alpha and Hornady brass that have shot well at 600, 300 pits were no longer flooded, winds were light for the most part, 3mph or so at times, I shot after my wife, she grouped her Hybrids in a 1.5" group, same size as she grouped some VLDHs 2 weeks before in a 600BR match our club was running, then I took my fouler, went down range and marked it and shot the rest of my 2 loads, 105JLKs in Hornady brass, Tula primers and 41.1grs 4451, the other was same cept for Alpha brass and 40.4grs 4451. I retrieved my target and to my amazement saw 3 in one hole, measured .229" and 2 that were caught by what I figure was a 3mph wind, oh well, that's shooting for ya, a 6BR wouldn't have done any better.