Coronavirus podcast a must see.

[dakor]

Everybody should watch this. The podcast has Michael Osterholm an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology from the University of Minnesota. The first 15 minutes really cover what we are dealing with regarding the Coronavirus. About the 20 minute mark they start talking about CWD which is another must watch. I would watch the whole thing it is worth your time there is no panic just facts.

 

[ED3]

I have not yet watched this, and given the length, I might not.
Being a MN resident, I seem to recall Osterholm predicting TEOTWAWKI in the early days of the AIDS outbreak.
It will be interesting to see his current assessments.

 

[Adam in WI]

Watched the whole thing earlier, very interesting.

 

[Whisky Tahoe Foxtrot]

Everybody should watch this. The podcast has Michael Osterholm an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology from the University of Minnesota. The first 15 minutes really cover what we are dealing with regarding the Coronavirus. About the 20 minute mark they start talking about CWD which is another must watch. I would watch the whole thing it is worth your time there is no panic just facts.

My son advised that I check this out a few days ago and I was skeptical of course however after watching it I was impressed with several things.
1) It is informative and combined with other sources of information helps complete the picture.
2) There doesn't appear to be any agenda other than increasing awareness. No scare tactics etc.

The key things I learned was Covid-19 becomes contagious before you feel symptoms which is different than SARS or H1N1.

 

[ED3]

My son advised that I check this out a few days ago and I was skeptical of course however after watching it I was impressed with several things.
1) It is informative and combined with other sources of information helps complete the picture.
2) There doesn't appear to be any agenda other than increasing awareness. No scare tactics etc.

The key things I learned was Covid-19 becomes contagious before you feel symptoms which is different than SARS or H1N1.

"The key things I learned was Covid-19 becomes contagious before you feel symptoms..."

That, historically is what makes the most contagious diseases, the most contagois.

 

[Whisky Tahoe Foxtrot]

"The key things I learned was Covid-19 becomes contagious before you feel symptoms..."

That, historically is what makes the most contagious diseases, the most contagois.

The key here is scanning for fever isn't as effective as it was for SARS and H1N1.

 

[Forum Boss]

Tests in Germany showed sputum virus levels in early stages an order of magnitude greater than with SARs.

 

[wbm]

Oh boy! That video sure helped calm things down. No worries mate...these are just facts. Nothing to panic about. Gimme a freaking break!

Well I guess it's time to do like Harrison Ford in Six Days and Seven Nights just stand up and wave our arms and say "oh shit we're all gonna die"

If he is right, then what follows the Pandemic is a severe world wide economic collapse. After that the Pandemic will seem like a minor event!

 

[6MMsteve]

IMHO this is the biggest lie ever told...other than man has been to the moon

 

[tvaught]

 

[bichettereds]

IMHO this is the biggest lie ever told...other than man has been to the moon

lmao. oh boy

 

[243Mendoza]

IMHO this is the biggest lie ever told...other than man has been to the moon

and that the earth is not flat!

 

[wbm]

So far Covid-19 pales in comparison with the H1N1 Pandemic of 2009-2010. Below are the stats for just the U.S.

CDC: pH1N1: From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, we estimate that approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306) occurred in the United States due to pH1N1. Eighty-seven percent of deaths occurred in those under 65 years of age with children and working adults having risks of hospitalization and death 4 to 7 times and 8 to 12 times greater, respectively, than estimates of impact due to seasonal influenza covering the years 1976-2001. In our study, adults 65 years of age or older were found to have rates of hospitalization and death that were up to 75% and 81%, respectively, lower than seasonal influenza. These results confirm the necessity of a concerted public health response to pH1N1.

https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates_2009_h1n1.htm

No nation wide shutdowns, national emergencies, or economic collapse. How very odd!

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

So far Covid-19 pales in comparison with the H1N1 Pandemic of 2009-2010. Below are the stats for just the U.S.

CDC: pH1N1: From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, we estimate that approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306) occurred in the United States due to pH1N1. Eighty-seven percent of deaths occurred in those under 65 years of age with children and working adults having risks of hospitalization and death 4 to 7 times and 8 to 12 times greater, respectively, than estimates of impact due to seasonal influenza covering the years 1976-2001. In our study, adults 65 years of age or older were found to have rates of hospitalization and death that were up to 75% and 81%, respectively, lower than seasonal influenza. These results confirm the necessity of a concerted public health response to pH1N1.

https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates_2009_h1n1.htm

No nation wide shutdowns, national emergencies, or economic collapse. How very odd!

I have $100 that says there will be more than 50,000 deaths from COVID-19 in the U.S. by Christmas 2020. Care to put your money where your keyboard is?

 

[wbm]

Care to put your money where your keyboard is?

How silly. It is not my statistics. Don't really know how Covid-19 will go. W.H.O data is below.

https://www.world-stat.info/

 

[JimT]

How silly. It is not my statistics sparky. Don't really know how Covid-19 will go.

If you are so confident in your incomplete analysis you should take the bet.

 

[wbm]

If you are so confident in your incomplete analysis you should take the bet.

Geez people. Get a grip! It is not MY analysis...it is statistics from CDC and W.H.O. If it is an "incomplete analysis" take it up with them....give them your analysis.

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

How silly. It is not my statistics. Don't really know how Covid-19 will go.

I figured that you were just blowing smoke. If you really thought that the last round of H1N1 influenza was worse than SARS-CoV-2, and that COVID-19 responses have been an overreaction ["No nation wide shutdowns, national emergencies, or economic collapse. How very odd!"], you'd be happy to take my $100. After all, there are fewer than 10,000 deaths from COVID-19 across the entire globe right now, and only 205 deaths in the U.S.

 

[wbm]

I figured that you were just blowing smoke.

https://www.world-stat.info/

 

[JimT]

Geez people. Get a grip! It is not MY analysis...it is statistics from CDC and W.H.O. If it is an "incomplete analysis" take it up with them....give them your analysis.

You are comparing statistics of a completed outbreak to one that, by all expert accounts, is in its infancy. Accordingly, if your are confident in your assumptions about how this progresses, which you had to make in order to make your original statement, then you MUST make the bet!