Considering XTC
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DR_2297
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If you want to participate in a sport where it is about how well you perform rather than how well your equipment performs then welcome to the family.
There isn’t much “magic” when it comes to the National Match AR, ammo or gear. They are all very similar and very capable. You can spend a little or a lot but a cheap rifle in an accomplished shooter’s hands will outperform an expensive rifle in a new shooter’s hands.
It is all about the shooter and his / her mastery of themselves being the shooting platform rather than a bipod and bag.
J.A.Root
There isn’t much “magic” when it comes to the National Match AR, ammo or gear. They are all very similar and very capable. You can spend a little or a lot but a cheap rifle in an accomplished shooter’s hands will outperform an expensive rifle in a new shooter’s hands.
It is all about the shooter and his / her mastery of themselves being the shooting platform rather than a bipod and bag.
J.A.Root
I am 45 and having the exact same thoughts. JR600yd on here was kind enough to let me borrow an entire setup from coat to rifle and even bullets with option to buy(hard to not buy a rifle once it spends the night at my house). Won't be able to shoot first match till after deer season but it seems like an exciting challenge to go along with FTR.
MGYSGT
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I am 68 and we shoot it once a month here in Lake Havasu. A bit rough in the summer with the coat on. Sometimes I leave it off when the temp is 110 at 0900 hrs. Offhand (awful hand) will discourage you if you don't have a coat. Heck, it is hard even with a coat. However, like others have mentioned. Rapid fire is fun and slow fire is like shooting Palma except with a lighter rifle. Getting into position (Sitting) can be a little hard. Actually getting out of position is the hard part. With some time spent in the positions of sitting and prone with the sling, you muscles will adjust. No sling for offhand. The other weekends of the month we shoot F Class and Benchrest.
The 100 yard reduced courses are a great place to learn the sport. Also, if you have a place to practice at 100 yards you can also practice on the 100 yard reduced course targets, great fun and a good way to learn a difficult sport.
Once you get the process worked out on the 100 yard reduced course targets you will be ready to step up to the Big Boy range and shoot the full course format. Most XTC matches are still run with pits and that is a great experience and will help you appreciate electronic targets when you are able to shoot with them.
Don, I have a lot of experience training new folks into the XTC sport. We run beginner clinics from time to time and I have developed a lot of training material that I have in electronic format. If you would like any of the training material or have any questions that I can help with email me at chkunz@bellsouth.net and I will be pleased to help.
Best wishes,
Clyde
Once you get the process worked out on the 100 yard reduced course targets you will be ready to step up to the Big Boy range and shoot the full course format. Most XTC matches are still run with pits and that is a great experience and will help you appreciate electronic targets when you are able to shoot with them.
Don, I have a lot of experience training new folks into the XTC sport. We run beginner clinics from time to time and I have developed a lot of training material that I have in electronic format. If you would like any of the training material or have any questions that I can help with email me at chkunz@bellsouth.net and I will be pleased to help.
Best wishes,
Clyde
It's also worth noting that MANY clubs and ranges are moving toward electronic scoring systems. No more long days in the pits and matches won't take near as long to complete. This means more time for BSing!
Also with the recent changes allowing optics, it's not just a young man's game anymore.
Also with the recent changes allowing optics, it's not just a young man's game anymore.
Don, it looks like your from the other end of FL from me. I know some guys that shoot at the 100 yd range at Lake City every month if you want me to forward your info. They also shoot Central Florida in Orlando, Wyoming Antelope Club, and Port Malabar.
Are you thinking Service Rifle or Match Rifle?
I’m sure we or they can come up with gear for you to use.
Jeff Clark
Are you thinking Service Rifle or Match Rifle?
I’m sure we or they can come up with gear for you to use.
Jeff Clark
DR_2297
Silver $$ Contributor
Until you are holding the rifle and then it isn’t big enough...
Don, I'm game for a conversation on HP, if you'd like. I can tell you things way faster than type them.
Do it! It’s fun. Good people too
I'd like to thank everyone for all the excellent suggestions, information, and offers. I've dabbled in a little benchrest, currently shoot FTR mid and long range. I used to shoot F Open but picked up FTR to hone my wind skills, they have gotten a bit better. When I moved to North Florida 10 years ago a met a shooter that in introduced me to PRS style shooting. He's 71 now and moves as easily as I do, very athletic most of his life. He is also considering XTC. He taught me 10 years ago that positional shooting is a perishable item. In other words if you don't use it you lose it, and I can attest to that. When I was in grade school(4th) I used to shoot on a 2 NRA .22 Teams, positional shooting. It was a hoot, rear peep sights, front post at 50ft. Memories, loved it, especially the rifles and ammo were supplied.
We shoot f class at Camp Blanding which is east of Starke on 16. Terry Pitts runs the shoots there and he usually has a XTC shoot once a month out to 600 yards.
Trying to think of some questions,also I always compete against myself, first and foremost in my mind....do I have to use that dreaded jacket? I will think of more, also I will be taking some of you up on contacting you.
Once again thank you for the information.
Don Dunlp
We shoot f class at Camp Blanding which is east of Starke on 16. Terry Pitts runs the shoots there and he usually has a XTC shoot once a month out to 600 yards.Trying to think of some questions,also I always compete against myself, first and foremost in my mind....do I have to use that dreaded jacket? I will think of more, also I will be taking some of you up on contacting you.
Once again thank you for the information.
Don Dunlp
DarkStar
There are those who have crossfired. . .
You don't HAVE to use the jacket, but it helps, significantly .
Most who take up XTC start with a service rifle. Scoped AR's (4.5x) are legal, but you can still use irons if you really want to. It is the easy button and the only way to earn the President's 100 and Distinguished Rifleman's badge.
I moved to a bolt action Match Rifle after I legged out (got the DR badge). I happen to enjoy working a bolt in the rapid fire stages. At that time, both match and service rifles were iron sight only, and many who began to have vision problems with the AR and its short sight radius went to match rifles with a longer sight radius (these could be semi-auto "spaceguns" or various bolt actions from standard M70's to Tubb 2000's and Eliseo Tubegun repeaters).
Now, for XTC, both rifle types can use optics. Again, service rifles are limited to 4.5x while match rifles can use unlimited power scopes. Big, high magnification scopes can get heavy when trying to hold the whole rig up in offhand.
I'll probably get back on this thread later, got some driving to do.
Go check out the usrifleteams website for more XTC stuff. Lots of info on there.
www.usrifleteams.com/forums
Most who take up XTC start with a service rifle. Scoped AR's (4.5x) are legal, but you can still use irons if you really want to. It is the easy button and the only way to earn the President's 100 and Distinguished Rifleman's badge.
I moved to a bolt action Match Rifle after I legged out (got the DR badge). I happen to enjoy working a bolt in the rapid fire stages. At that time, both match and service rifles were iron sight only, and many who began to have vision problems with the AR and its short sight radius went to match rifles with a longer sight radius (these could be semi-auto "spaceguns" or various bolt actions from standard M70's to Tubb 2000's and Eliseo Tubegun repeaters).
Now, for XTC, both rifle types can use optics. Again, service rifles are limited to 4.5x while match rifles can use unlimited power scopes. Big, high magnification scopes can get heavy when trying to hold the whole rig up in offhand.
I'll probably get back on this thread later, got some driving to do.
Go check out the usrifleteams website for more XTC stuff. Lots of info on there.
www.usrifleteams.com/forums
I thought scopes were legal for leg matches and for P100? Your message seems to imply only irons are legal for leg matches and P100.
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