I had a nice conversation with the man that owns and runs Conley bullets. Mr Conley makes 30cal 12, 116. and 118gr 30cal bullets for the 30BR. He seems like a real fine gentlemen and an honest person. I am going to give his 116's a try and see how they shoot in my Krieger/Lawton rig. I was wondering if any of you fellas are already shooting his bullets? We decided to try the 116's as they sounded like the right choice for how i will be shooting. I had a friend here on the forum turn me on to these bullets and he claims that they are excellent bullets. Just looking to make some friendly conversation here and hoping some of you fellas could tell me how these bullets are shooting for you. There going to have to be a really great bullet to beat these BIB bullets i already have, but what the heck. I like trying new things. Thanks Lee