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Cold clean barrel wont shoot

I have this F-class rifle that wont shoot until I've pushed 20+ rounds down the tube.

I can take it to the range and shoots groups .80's and after 20-30 rounds it starts grouping .20's.
It shoots best with a very warm barrel.... does this make sense?
I almost don't want to clean it.

Amy recommendations would be appreciated.

Rich
 
Your situation is very common. Matter of fact, I'd put it in the "normal" category. Most rifles I've owned needed a couple fouler shots to wake up the barrel.

Tom
 
4 or 5 shots is normal but 20 is excessive. Try using lock-ease to condition the bore after cleaning. Have you looked down the barrel with a bore scope?
 
I was having this problem but not for 20 rounds. I started cleaning with Shooter's Choice and the following up with clean patches then one pass with a patch dampened with Butch's Gun Oil. Don't patch out before shooting. This stopped the CCB shot from being out of the fouled barrel group.

Might get some Butch's and try it.

George
 
George, that's just opposite of my experience. In fact, I will not leave a barrel wet after cleaning. If I did, it would have to re-foul, and that cannot occur until dry.

The fix for me is to pre-foul after cleaning and put the gun up dry. I do this with a follow up of alcohol, and dry burnishing with tungsten powder. Graphite,as mentioned) will do the same.
With this, my first group quality has been good,using cut rifled barrels).
 
My wife's 6 ppc likes a clean barrel . One or two rounds to slightly foul the barrel and then off we go. It gets cleaned every 10 or so shots. My 30 br likes a not so clean barrel.It takes 3 to 4 rounds before it's ready to rock n roll. It gets cleaned sfter about 25 rounds.
 
It sounds like your rifle would be a great canidate for WS2,tungsten disulfide). After I started using it I am good for about 120 rounds before it needs to be cleaned. When it does finally need cleaning its a snap with little to no copper fouling.
 
WS2=tungsten disulfide. Its a powder that you impact plate your bullets with that is similar to molly coating without a lot of the drawbacks that moly has. Its easy to use, just dump some BBs in your tumbler along with just a little WS2 and your bullets you want to coat, let it tumble for about 45 minutes to an hour and your done. I have done 400 bullets at a time with no problems. It wont build up on itself so if you put in more WS2 than needed it will be there for next time and there is no bullet prep unless you just want to clean them first.

look up WS2, danzac, or tungsten disulfide. Its all the same stuff.
 

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