I was wondering if with coaxial front rest (mainly a SEB) will the rest stay in the same position when you let go of the joystick even under recoil? Or is that all in how you have it set? Seriously thinking about the new NeO X for shooting benchrest for score with both a centerfire and a rimfire.
Coaxial front rest question
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AlNyhus
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My Farley with the Shadetree adjusters (and a bit of tweaking) does. -Al
Dusty Stevens
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Its not an issue go hold the stick. It should become a habit
JMayo
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That is the important part and why many have gone to seb vrs Farley.
Returning to aim point when pushed back up.
My farley didn't move the stick but the sand in the bag would move. Not so with the Seb.
Set and relax my hold on the stick ... Or i try to
lol ....i have moved it if i don't.
Returning to aim point when pushed back up.
My farley didn't move the stick but the sand in the bag would move. Not so with the Seb.
Set and relax my hold on the stick ... Or i try to
lol ....i have moved it if i don't.
seb
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Hi TrxR, thank you for your interest with my product!
It's 20+ kilograms steel weights on the top when I was experimenting with the prototype, the joystick stayed still. It was only with the standard uplift springs and a standard Ratigan counterweight for LV/HV rifle in the front. Without any counterweight in the front, the NEO-X (and my other rests as well) will hold up to about 25 lbs rifle.
This video (in case you do FB?) showing the joystick action with the weight on the top...
To hold or not to hold/let the joystick hangs in the air is 100% about shooter's preference or habit.
From what I've seen so far, probably over than 90% shooters hold the joystick when shooting - however that does not necessarily means that the top would drop (or so) when you let the joystick in the air.
Best,
seb
www.sebrests.com
A joystick rest is just second nature. I hold the stick but it's not because it moves, but because it feels natural to me. Not saying that's right or wrong, just that it works for me. I think people tend to over think them. The trick to them is properly adjusting them. Most are pretty sensitive to adjustment but if it's well set up, the stick shouldn't move but should glide when intended to, without any discernable spring back or stickiness. Just smooth baby! Seb makes a great front rest, as does Farley. Even the Shadetree is a good rest when set up properly. I've owned all three and I never felt like one made me shoot better or worse than the others, but they each have their own benefits. I do think the newer Farley is better than the older ones due to I think a better bearing in them.
The Lenzi feels great but I've not owned one yet. I want to try a Rodzilla as well. I like the design of his rest, fwiw. I've built a couple as well, with a totally different bearing and adjustment mechanism that works well. I might build some in the future but too many irons in the fire already. Also have ideas about an electronic rest but I'm not sure the market is ready for that yet, when what we have is very good already. It would have the benefit of integrating with electronic flags! Again, market ready? It would use stepper motors, probably, which pull a lot of current, even when not moving. Some rules already disallow electronic flags and I think other orgs would follow if that setup became reality and the bugs worked out of it...but it's plausible. Probably not to perfection but much better than the human aspect, which is why it'll probably never be accepted widely.
Never say never, though. A board member here was actually in on the design of the system that allows the Abrams tank to stay on target, running 60mph across rough ground. FWIW.
The Lenzi feels great but I've not owned one yet. I want to try a Rodzilla as well. I like the design of his rest, fwiw. I've built a couple as well, with a totally different bearing and adjustment mechanism that works well. I might build some in the future but too many irons in the fire already. Also have ideas about an electronic rest but I'm not sure the market is ready for that yet, when what we have is very good already. It would have the benefit of integrating with electronic flags! Again, market ready? It would use stepper motors, probably, which pull a lot of current, even when not moving. Some rules already disallow electronic flags and I think other orgs would follow if that setup became reality and the bugs worked out of it...but it's plausible. Probably not to perfection but much better than the human aspect, which is why it'll probably never be accepted widely.
Never say never, though. A board member here was actually in on the design of the system that allows the Abrams tank to stay on target, running 60mph across rough ground. FWIW.
seb
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A suitable and better front rest is certainly very helpful and/but nevertheless the shooter must also be able to adapt with all equipment he/she is using.
Regarding the rest, there are some who somehow can't use a joystick rest, some others can adapt very well and immediately. The most important thing and what makes it different (imho) is, if you can get one point or just one X higher with the rest you use then it means a lot and can distinguish you as a winner or 3rd place etc. especially when the participants are very competitive. How if you can get 2 points or even more with it?
Same thing in benchrest group comps, if you can reduce your groups to just by 1/20 MOA by using a more suitable or precision rest, it all becomes clear why you need to use a better rest.
If the rest does not give you benefit or a better result, then it's no point to use more expensive rest.
I really agree with what Eric Cortina said that with a good rest even though the price is relatively 'expensive', in the end you end up using it for free or even get some profit when you sell it.
Sorry if I am biased on this matter but this is just a reality / fact.
And if we are allowed to make a motorized shooting rest probably I will or have already made them because I like innovations and specializing in making shooting rests. I just try my best... seb
Regarding the rest, there are some who somehow can't use a joystick rest, some others can adapt very well and immediately. The most important thing and what makes it different (imho) is, if you can get one point or just one X higher with the rest you use then it means a lot and can distinguish you as a winner or 3rd place etc. especially when the participants are very competitive. How if you can get 2 points or even more with it?
Same thing in benchrest group comps, if you can reduce your groups to just by 1/20 MOA by using a more suitable or precision rest, it all becomes clear why you need to use a better rest.
If the rest does not give you benefit or a better result, then it's no point to use more expensive rest.
I really agree with what Eric Cortina said that with a good rest even though the price is relatively 'expensive', in the end you end up using it for free or even get some profit when you sell it.
Sorry if I am biased on this matter but this is just a reality / fact.
And if we are allowed to make a motorized shooting rest probably I will or have already made them because I like innovations and specializing in making shooting rests. I just try my best... seb
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