CM light..?

[Rsadams]

Do you think the charge master light is worth it..? Loading Rifle I use scoops and trickle up which is a time consuming affair that I guess I don't mind on high precision rounds , but .223 etc for the m16 platform is a real pain.
For pistol I just use a powder thrower and check every 5th round...

I was just wondering if the CM light would speed things up , and be safe... Or is the more expensive charge master the way to go..? Just fwi I am still using an rcbs 10/10 scale...

Thanks for your opinions... I have never used one and can't see spending a couple hundred bucks on something I won't use , I have enough of that stuff already...lol

 

[joshb]

You can throw those 223 loads if you use ball powders. The trick is how you throw the charge. Do the same lift each time you set up the thrower and weigh them to check. Hard smack at the top of the stroke tends to weigh a little more than a lite smack. I check every charge for the first ten while I get a rhythm going, then every 5th for a while then every 10th. I've done a rack of 50 before checking the last charge and have it dead on. Bl-c2, H335 and a few others work well. My plinking loads are a safe margin below max, just in case a charge throws heavy.
On the electronic scales? I'm sticking with my beam scales. Throw close and trickle!

 

[Evlshnngns]

Change the title from cm to chargemaster. The creedmoor haterz will have ptsd clicking the link.

I would like to hear more about the LITE version.

 

[Rsadams]

Change the title from cm to chargemaster. The creedmoor haterz will have ptsd clicking the link.

I would like to hear more about the LITE version.

Lol , sorry didn't think about that... Hopefully some charge master people will chime in....

 

[Rsadams]

You can throw those 223 loads if you use ball powders. The trick is how you throw the charge. Do the same lift each time you set up the thrower and weigh them to check. Hard smack at the top of the stroke tends to weigh a little more than a lite smack. I check every charge for the first ten while I get a rhythm going, then every 5th for a while then every 10th. I've done a rack of 50 before checking the last charge and have it dead on. Bl-c2, H335 and a few others work well. My plinking loads are a safe margin below max, just in case a charge throws heavy.
On the electronic scales? I'm sticking with my beam scales. Throw close and trickle!

Yes sir that's exactly how I do my pistol loads... I do have a spare thrower I could use also... It's just a Lee but it should work...

 

[joshb]

I haven't used a Lee. I'm using the RCBS thrower I bought 40 years ago. I'm not a competitive shooter but I do OK. There's a nice thrower on the sale board for $75.

 

[Rsadams]

I haven't used a Lee. I'm using the RCBS thrower I bought 40 years ago. I'm not a competitive shooter but I do OK. There's a nice thrower on the sale board for $75.

I also have the rcbs throwers I use for pistol , it's setup with the small drum right now...

 

[Homerange]

Why don't you try a search as there's a few threads on the new Lite:
http://forum.accurateshooter.com/search/40034057/?q=Chargemaster+Lite&o=relevance&c[node]=2

I splashed out ~1yr ago for the 1500 after hunting out all I could find about it and the mods that make perform/throw more uniformly.
I haven't been disappointed and I use mostly extruded powers that are more prone to dropping in clumps that result in over throws. McD straws of the correct size aren't available in NZ so I turned up a dispense tube insert with my lathe right from the get go. The only other mod I've added is feeding the LV power cable through a circular ferrite for a few wraps to reduce any disturbance on the DC supply.
With it we load for 223, 243, 708 and 308 and soon 222 after we use all the ammo I loaded for it some years back.

 

[Delfuego]

 

[Delfuego]

On an honest note, why bother? You won't ever save money in this game. Just get the more expensive one, we know that it works good

 

[Fotheringill]

Please don't think that it is going to save time over throwing and weighing manually.

Without modification, except a McDonald's straw, on .223 loads it was taking about 17 seconds for the old ChargeMaster to finish a drop and weigh. Then, another six or seven seconds to remove the pan, shove out any overthrows (never had an underthrow) reweigh the drop and go on to the next one.

I found that with a manual drop (brand doesn't matter) it took less time to either trickle if short weight or toss out a few kernels, if heavy, reweigh and go on to the next one.

Each to his own.

 

[Rsadams]

Ok , thanks guys , I have read some threads on the charge master and fixes for them over the last year or so.. If I do my part I guess that's about how long it takes useing a scoop and trickling up to weight... I guess I will just save the money for something else down the line...

It honestly sounds about as time consuming as the scoop method but the scoops are twenty dollars..I like to drop powder and seat a bullet before moving on to the next round in rifle... It's pistol that eats up my time , maybe I should look into a Dillion for it and put the money towards that... A friend just bought a 650 and alot of the extras for loading pistol , it cost him a bit of money but man does it turn them out... Use my green press for loading my big rifle stuff and the Dillon for all pistol and even .223 for ARs...

 

[joshb]

Having a friend with a nice progressive can be better than owning one yourself. Take your components and a case of his favorite beer!

 

[Delfuego]

If you do end up with a Chargemaster, get the MDM insert for it

 

[done111]

I have the charge master lite and love it. It does save time but the thing I like most about it is I don't have to be "involved" when it is thrown' the powder. I watch tv....listen for the beep....look to make sure charge is correct....drop powder in brass....lay tray back on....watch tv........repeat. Easy peasy. I used to spend so much time being "involved" trickling in that last bit on my precision loads, now I'm watching tv while the tedious stuff if going on like magic, LOL.