Cleaning inside of necks?

[K22]

Is this necessary? Does it help accuracy/help make neck tension more consistent? If so what do you clean with and how?

NO!

 

[chevytruck_83]

I'm with shoots dots on this one. There are a lot of factors that go into neck tension. How much the brass has work hardened, neck thickness, runout etc. A little lube or carbon seems like a valuable tool to help limit the effects.

 

[Mozella]

You're raining on a parade. Case cleaning (to jewelry-like sparkle) is one of the fastest-growing hobbies. Many chaps do it after every firing, and spend more time cleaning cases than loading them.
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Here's my take: I wet SS tumble my brass every time. Yes, it takes over an hour, but that's nearly all waiting time as opposed to individual handling every case. The more individual handling, the more tedious hand loading becomes, as far as I'm concerned. Some folks love it, but brass fondling is not my idea of fun.

Once my brass is clean inside and out, I go through the other reloading procedures including annealing every time. I use the "wet" moly coating process on my bullets not for any effect (either positive or negative) it may have on my barrel, but for the lubrication it provides during bullet seating and, in theory at least, during bullet release. A precisely applied moly coating on a bullet seated into a carefully cleaned case EVERY TIME gives me the consistency I need for my competition ammo.

This procedure may not appeal to everyone, but it works well enough for me so that I was able to shoot high aggregate score in yesterday's F-Class match using my lowly .223 against all F/TR competitors and I out-scored every one of the F-Open shooters as well. All except one of my 60 scoring rounds as well as my 9 sighters were very very close to the 3 o'clock, 9 o'clock line; i.e. very little vertical dispersion at 600 yards. I'm not sure what happened to that one odd-ball, but it didn't hurt me too much. My careful testing has shown that seating moly coated bullets into clean cases is one factor in achieving the level of precision I need to win in spite of my rudimentary wind reading skills.

Carbon fouling inside a case neck might provide exactly the same lubrication effect, but I haven't seen any viable procedure offered which might allow me to control the amount of carbon fouling with any degree of precision. Plus, you aren't going to catch me hand cleaning primer pockets, brushing out necks, lubricating necks, and other procedures which requires me to handle individual cases. I much prefer to watch TV while my wet SS tumbler is running. There is plenty of individual handling associated with getting the powder into the case, the case into the loading block, the bullet into the case, the round into the ammo box, and the round into the rifle. I don't need additional tedium in my life.

 

[Jet]

I use steel wool lightly on the exterior necks and a nylon brush in and out once, that's it.

I anneal to help with the neck tension.

Rich

 

[Concha]

The point that has not mentioned is( or at least I did not see it) that the "clean necks", once loaded, and are not shot soon afterwards tend to bond to the bullet. The carbon or dry lube eliminates this. I can verify that Shootdots is a qualified reloader shooter and one of the finest gentlemen in the sport. He shoots with some of the best around.

 

[chevytruck_83]

Here's my take: I wet SS tumble my brass every time. Yes, it takes over an hour, but that's nearly all waiting time as opposed to individual handling every case. The more individual handling, the more tedious hand loading becomes, as far as I'm concerned. Some folks love it, but brass fondling is not my idea of fun.

Once my brass is clean inside and out, I go through the other reloading procedures including annealing every time. I use the "wet" moly coating process on my bullets not for any effect (either positive or negative) it may have on my barrel, but for the lubrication it provides during bullet seating and, in theory at least, during bullet release. A precisely applied moly coating on a bullet seated into a carefully cleaned case EVERY TIME gives me the consistency I need for my competition ammo.

This procedure may not appeal to everyone, but it works well enough for me so that I was able to shoot high aggregate score in yesterday's F-Class match using my lowly .223 against all F/TR competitors and I out-scored every one of the F-Open shooters as well. All except one of my 60 scoring rounds as well as my 9 sighters were very very close to the 3 o'clock, 9 o'clock line; i.e. very little vertical dispersion at 600 yards. I'm not sure what happened to that one odd-ball, but it didn't hurt me too much. My careful testing has shown that seating moly coated bullets into clean cases is one factor in achieving the level of precision I need to win in spite of my rudimentary wind reading skills.

Carbon fouling inside a case neck might provide exactly the same lubrication effect, but I haven't seen any viable procedure offered which might allow me to control the amount of carbon fouling with any degree of precision. Plus, you aren't going to catch me hand cleaning primer pockets, brushing out necks, lubricating necks, and other procedures which requires me to handle individual cases. I much prefer to watch TV while my wet SS tumbler is running. There is plenty of individual handling associated with getting the powder into the case, the case into the loading block, the bullet into the case, the round into the ammo box, and the round into the rifle. I don't need additional tedium in my life.

Here's my take: I wet SS tumble my brass every time. Yes, it takes over an hour, but that's nearly all waiting time as opposed to individual handling every case. The more individual handling, the more tedious hand loading becomes, as far as I'm concerned. Some folks love it, but brass fondling is not my idea of fun.

Once my brass is clean inside and out, I go through the other reloading procedures including annealing every time. I use the "wet" moly coating process on my bullets not for any effect (either positive or negative) it may have on my barrel, but for the lubrication it provides during bullet seating and, in theory at least, during bullet release. A precisely applied moly coating on a bullet seated into a carefully cleaned case EVERY TIME gives me the consistency I need for my competition ammo.

This procedure may not appeal to everyone, but it works well enough for me so that I was able to shoot high aggregate score in yesterday's F-Class match using my lowly .223 against all F/TR competitors and I out-scored every one of the F-Open shooters as well. All except one of my 60 scoring rounds as well as my 9 sighters were very very close to the 3 o'clock, 9 o'clock line; i.e. very little vertical dispersion at 600 yards. I'm not sure what happened to that one odd-ball, but it didn't hurt me too much. My careful testing has shown that seating moly coated bullets into clean cases is one factor in achieving the level of precision I need to win in spite of my rudimentary wind reading skills.

Carbon fouling inside a case neck might provide exactly the same lubrication effect, but I haven't seen any viable procedure offered which might allow me to control the amount of carbon fouling with any degree of precision. Plus, you aren't going to catch me hand cleaning primer pockets, brushing out necks, lubricating necks, and other procedures which requires me to handle individual cases. I much prefer to watch TV while my wet SS tumbler is running. There is plenty of individual handling associated with getting the powder into the case, the case into the loading block, the bullet into the case, the round into the ammo box, and the round into the rifle. I don't need additional tedium in my life.

I wish I didn't read this procedure. Seems like a good repeatable way to go. Every time I think I'm happy with my process I either discover a cool tool like 21st centuries lathe or a process like this.