chronograph vs magnetospeed
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The MS of course attaches to your barrel and can be done at the bench. The Chrono is a nuisance and all the paraphernalia gets set up a distance from the bench and should be at the same distance each time for consistent multiple sessions. The MS is basically for rifles [unusual pistols excepted] whereas the Chrono can be used for both rifles and pistols. I have both. However, both are rarely used. 
Take a look at LabRadar. That is my next purchase
I have:
Chrony F1
Olher 35p
MS 1,2
On a day to day basis, the MS wins hands down. Accuracy and ease of use. Barrel blast etches the bayo.
Olher is not questioned. Accurate but set up is a PIA.
Chrony is inexpensive, accurate enough. A little fiddley.
Other optical chronographs are the same as Chrony.
Chrony F1
Olher 35p
MS 1,2
On a day to day basis, the MS wins hands down. Accuracy and ease of use. Barrel blast etches the bayo.
Olher is not questioned. Accurate but set up is a PIA.
Chrony is inexpensive, accurate enough. A little fiddley.
Other optical chronographs are the same as Chrony.
Yeah I got email saying Fall 2014 they should be shipping
Lapua40X
California Hunter Education Instructor
I'm the proud owner of a Magnetospeed V2 and I can't say enough good things about it. It's the finest, most accurate, most reliable chronograph I've ever used. The updated version, Magnetospeed V3, is even better. Now, what if the LabRadar set-up had been available when I bought the MS?
Here's my take on how I'd make the purchasing decision:
The MS does a great job. It's only draw back is that I can't use it to judge accuracy and velocity at the same time because, although the impacts on target still group reliably, it tends to increase the elevation of the group and I have to collect my MV data then adjust my zero if I make any changes in the load.
The MS costs about $380 and I can get one today.
The LabRadar claims to provide all of the same information I get from my MS, plus multiple samplings of velocity over about 100 yards. (The fact that it allegedly samples at a 4000 pulse per second rate doesn't impress me because it's only sampling a little more than about 400 pulses over the first hundred yards of travel and the rest of the trip to the long range target goes unregistered) But the LabRadar is not attached to the rifle so I can be confident in the validity of my recorded groups on target and the velocity at the same time.
The LabRadar will, I am lead to believe, sell for around $550 and although it's promised for release in the fall of this year I can't get a promised delivery date if I order it today.
Price difference of $170 is a bit of a hit for me but the greater flexibility in application makes me lean toward the LabRadar.
So LabRadar is where I'd go ..................
Here's my take on how I'd make the purchasing decision:
The MS does a great job. It's only draw back is that I can't use it to judge accuracy and velocity at the same time because, although the impacts on target still group reliably, it tends to increase the elevation of the group and I have to collect my MV data then adjust my zero if I make any changes in the load.
The MS costs about $380 and I can get one today.
The LabRadar claims to provide all of the same information I get from my MS, plus multiple samplings of velocity over about 100 yards. (The fact that it allegedly samples at a 4000 pulse per second rate doesn't impress me because it's only sampling a little more than about 400 pulses over the first hundred yards of travel and the rest of the trip to the long range target goes unregistered) But the LabRadar is not attached to the rifle so I can be confident in the validity of my recorded groups on target and the velocity at the same time.
The LabRadar will, I am lead to believe, sell for around $550 and although it's promised for release in the fall of this year I can't get a promised delivery date if I order it today.
Price difference of $170 is a bit of a hit for me but the greater flexibility in application makes me lean toward the LabRadar.
So LabRadar is where I'd go ..................
I like the MagnetoSpeed https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12296998/Magnetospeed/GAT%20Rifles%20260%20Rem%20%2B%20MagnetoSpeed.jpg
Regards
JCS
Regards
JCS
Joe R
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I'm the proud owner of a Magnetospeed V2 and I can't say enough good things about it. It's the finest, most accurate, most reliable chronograph I've ever used. The updated version, Magnetospeed V3, is even better. Now, what if the LabRadar set-up had been available when I bought the MS?
Here's my take on how I'd make the purchasing decision:
The MS does a great job. It's only draw back is that I can't use it to judge accuracy and velocity at the same time because, although the impacts on target still group reliably, it tends to increase the elevation of the group and I have to collect my MV data then adjust my zero if I make any changes in the load.
The MS costs about $380 and I can get one today.
The LabRadar claims to provide all of the same information I get from my MS, plus multiple samplings of velocity over about 100 yards. (The fact that it allegedly samples at a 4000 pulse per second rate doesn't impress me because it's only sampling a little more than about 400 pulses over the first hundred yards of travel and the rest of the trip to the long range target goes unregistered) But the LabRadar is not attached to the rifle so I can be confident in the validity of my recorded groups on target and the velocity at the same time.
The LabRadar will, I am lead to believe, sell for around $550 and although it's promised for release in the fall of this year I can't get a promised delivery date if I order it today.
Price difference of $170 is a bit of a hit for me but the greater flexibility in application makes me lean toward the LabRadar.
So LabRadar is where I'd go ..................
I paid $622.34 (including Texas sales taxes and shipping) for my Oehler 35P. I like its accuracy and reliability. Set up is a PITA, but more importantly I'm always in fear of shooting part of the chrono. To me ease of setup and eliminating the risk of damage are a HUGE advantage. IF LabRadar comes to market at that prices, and IF it works as advertised, it will probably put Oehler out of business. But Ken Oehler has had a good run.
I think the MS has some very good points but the reality is if LabRadar delivers what they promise, it will take over as the most desirable chronograph. The price difference is right now purely academic as MSRP is really just suggested retail price which can change up or down depending on availability and demand. Regardless, the people who buys this type of instrument would not be deterred.
So has anyone worked a load up using Magnetospeed for days and then shoot load without it? Does the load hold and just have an increase in POI?
I’ve seen somewhere (maybe SH) where someone posted an e-mail response from the company acknowledging that the MS can in fact affect POI in certain instance. I think that troublesome only from the standpoint that you have to get MV and POI data from different batches of rounds and not be able to correlate MV and accuracy/precision data to the same rounds, not a terrible weakness has the MS has its strong points. I think this would really only come into play should the LabRadar pans out in terms of its claims.
Right. I was thinking of using MS to work loads and get velocity/ES/SD and work up a great load. Then take it off for matches. I know I would have to get new zero, but would the load shoot same as it did when I worked it up as far as accuracy and holding up?
LabRadar I think is going to be huge. Seems like it will live up to its claim based on technology
LabRadar I think is going to be huge. Seems like it will live up to its claim based on technology
I don't have one so no first hand knowledge. I've seen people who swears that the groups don't open up and I've seen people who don't believe in it since it is strapped on the barrel and so it must affect harmonics i.e. OBT so to me it's a toss up. I guess in general, I can live with my Ohler until the performance of the LabRadar becomes clear at which point I will probably buy one or the other.
LabRadar looks interesting thats for sure! A couple of questions need answering though on its operation and susceptibility to interference from other LabRadar units operating in close proximity.
1. Its triggered by muzzle blast, so what effect do other shooters have on the unit who are shooting on the next bench?
2. If other LabRadar units are operating close by, what effect do the reflected waves have on the measuring units accuracy?
I like it not being attached to the barrel but I wonder if it will work at a busy rifle range when a lot of us go there all using LabRadars?
Ian
1. Its triggered by muzzle blast, so what effect do other shooters have on the unit who are shooting on the next bench?
2. If other LabRadar units are operating close by, what effect do the reflected waves have on the measuring units accuracy?
I like it not being attached to the barrel but I wonder if it will work at a busy rifle range when a lot of us go there all using LabRadars?
Ian
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