Chip smith front rest
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Contact: chip@dsmachine.biz
Looks like he’s a master machinist and has created a titanium action.
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nice rest -
Looks like he’s a master machinist and has created a titanium action.
Smith Front Rest Review
Santa Claus, er, uh, the UPS driver arrived this afternoon with my new Smith front rest. I felt like a kid at Christmas opening his present. Good thing I'm not a kid though because Chip packed this rest to survive pretty much anything UPS could throw at it. As I started going through all the...
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nice rest -
butchlambert
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That is a copy of Jay Lynn Gores that he offered about 25 years ago. One of your links said $1300 in 2016 for one of them.
doclu60
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Gene, that's because it is a copy of it. Old information said it (Smith rest) had tighter tolerances and some updating. This rest design has been copied before. Randolph/Fulghum rest was a copy of Lamon Loggins's rest. Difference being the Loggins rest used gears for vertical adjustment and the rest Ken Fulghum made as a copy used/uses a cogged belt/sprocket drive for vertical. Also, the Fulghum top was very different, and IMO, better then the Loggins top. I own both, a Randolph and an original Loggins with the original tops.
Scott
Wow.. that's nice - how much does he sell them for?
He doesn't really sell them. He's made 3 so far . 1 for himself and 2 others. Some have tried to get him to make one for them but he doesn't want to get into making them sell. I got my name on one if the person decides to get out of shooting. They are nice and smooth though with no backlash.
gkgeiger
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You won't be disappointed.
doclu60
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The only thing even remotely similar to a Fulghum/Randolph rest from what you have posted is the horizontal adjustment. I would need a better photo of the horizontal adjustment, as I just looked at it again to even remotely make my opening statement valid. Also, way too many moving parts in the vertical adjustment to put me in my comfort zone. What you posted has not been copied several times. Randolph, Smith, and the original Loggins are WAY different from what you posted.......not even close.
Scott
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doclu60
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Gene, I gave you a 'like' on this. I am very happy with my Randolph and consider it a change that I made for the 2021 season that put me into the the top 10 in the nation in IR50/50 3-gun competition. There are tons of Randolph's being used in IR 3-gun and Sporter for a reason, excellent top, which the base attachment system has been copied/used by MANY other makers, and smooth and precise adjustments. They didn't cost $1,300 in 2016......and still don't in 2022.
You won't be disappointed.
Scott
The windage is controlled the same way and I said right off the bat that it uses a completely different way to control elevation.
doclu60
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Post a better picture of the horizontal adjustment. From what I see it is not exactly the same as a Fulghum/Randolph/Loggins/Smith type rest. Perhaps a better picture would prove your point. The picture I see seems to be different from the above four. I know you said the vertical was different, but that was not my point.
The vertical, IMO, is not something most of the guys I shoot with would find acceptable. From the picture you posted, the only thing remotely similar to the four rests I spoke of in this conversation is a vague similarity to the base plate, which still doesn't match the others. Don't know you, or how much big time match experience you have. I can appreciate you defending your friend, but I also know the rest you posted will most likely never go anywhere from a serious competition standpoint. Just not in the same league as the others mentioned in this thread.
Scott
He located his adjustment knobs in a different location but it works on the same principal. It is a very stable rest and has no slop anywhere in it, but I do see your concern about all the moving parts in the long run. He has been using this rest for about 5 years now I think and everything is still tight. I maybe shouldnt have called it a copy but it works on the same Idea.
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doclu60
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Okay, seeing what I thought I saw in the first pictures. This rest your friend has made is really no way a copy of the rests mentioned in this thread. Even considering the vertical, which is very out of the norm, horizontal is not even close to the other rests mentioned, all of those having the same design/positioning of controlling horizontal adjustments. As in being in the center of the horizontal adjustment block, and not on top of it. Since I have no experience with such of a design, I can not comment if the horizontal controls are good or bad, but definitely not copy of the original Loggins rest that started all this copy cat cloning.
No disrespect to his talents in building a rest, but not even close to the rests brought up in the conversation. Kind of looks like them, but that's it, mechanically very different.
Scott
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