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CA hunting - less than 1% of the population...

Not buying it. Last year several zones sold out of deer tags. WTH are they talking about ?
 
The anti-s could care less about the wildlife. It's all about hate for the sport and those that enjoy it. The same push is going on in Europe and Africa with the same results.
 
So sad. My memories of deer hunting in California are from the '60s. During those years in the Sierras, I wouldn't have traded to go anywhere else for deer. Heck, schools in our community even had a day off for hunting. Could you even begin to imagine that now!?
 
I used to kill tons of euasian dove here in so. Cal. Now I just wound them with steel. Lots of feathers but they don’t go down. Duck, pheasant and quail also.
 
Good memories of hunting around Yosemite and on the backside of the mountains around Bishop.
 
I haven't bought a CA hunting license for the last 2 years as a personal protest over the lead ban and all the other BS going on in this state. I take my hunting money out of state.
 
I haven't bought a CA hunting license for the last 2 years as a personal protest over the lead ban and all the other BS going on in this state. I take my hunting money out of state.
Same here! I quit hunting here in 2008. Before that I belonged to private hunting clubs and always had a great time. Now I won't give them Aholes a dime.
 
The BLM land in the Sierras east/northeast of Sacramento used to provide awesome varmint hunting. Rock chucks were pretty common.
 
What about bismuth and zinc shot shells?? Almost as dense and efficient as lead?? Expensive?? Sure! Dont bounce off like steel
 
What about bismuth and zinc shot shells?? Almost as dense and efficient as lead?? Expensive?? Sure! Dont bounce off like steel
Yes, very expensive ! Lead shells were $0.20 each and tungsten can be over $5 per shell. Nobody stocks it on the shelf so you have to order it online and have it shipped to an FFL and pay more fees. If you have no bought a gun recently you aren't in the system and more or less have to DROS your ammo. Also keep in mind our gas here in CA is better than yours so it is ~$3.30 a gallon so we can lead the way and save the planet.
 
You are right there, California and it's communist leaders in California's politics are leading the way in how to ruin a grand old State, in every manner they can do.
 
There are layers if issues with hunting in CA. I will address my personal feelings, based only on my observations in Southern California, primarily in Ventura and North Western Los Angeles counties.

Deer Hunting: It has been on the decline since the Mountain Lion hunting ban. BTW we also built about ten million more homes and housing tracks in this stare. The deer that used to be behind my home have not been seen in 20 years. When I hike, usually every morning, I see tracks, but rarely if ever see a deer. Maybe I drag my feet and hum, whatever I don't se em any more like I did. Led free, no big deal, two boxes of Federal Premium 180 grain Barnes bullets should last me a life time of hunting here. Another issue is public lands. At one point I had access to a 6700 acre ranch in town, for those members familiar with Ventura county it was Dos Vientos ranch, all homes now. Another ranch in town 2200 acres, Lang Ranch, now homes. So now its public lands. The state improved many access roads to some good hunting areas like Alamo Mountain, hunted there for years until they improved the roads, its turned onto a party place for idiots to destroy, I haven't hunted there in years. So I Deer hunt in South Dakota now, did Hunt in New York until We sold the property.

Upland birds: Many states have non led for upland game, that doesn't bother me. What has ruined it for me here is the past two fire seasons preceded by a five year drouth. Once again without access to the ranches I used to hunt, it's back to public lands. As plentiful as they are here they tend generate enormous hunting pressure on the quail.

Small game: Here is where the led free ammo, sucks. I hunt Rabbits with a .22 pistol iron sights. They require 2 rounds to kill. The first round usually stops the critter (I never shoot at a running rabbit, no need) the second shot is the coup de grâceis.

Varmints, Predators and vermin: I limit Coyote shooting with the .223 or 22-250 to 300 yards. I don't believe the 36 grain VG will make a merciful one shot kill beyond that. I pistol shot a jack rabbit at 75 yards with Winchester .22 led free ammo. I fired 10 rounds watching dirt fly up directly behind it, thinking I was missing it, for the most part the Jack just moved a few feet then stopped. I hit it 8/10. The damn led free ammo was punching through it like an ice pick, zero expansion, inhumane in my opinion.

Yes hunting is kind of drying up, hard to find young guys that are interested. The expense of equipment and ammo, combined with the hassle of getting there can be a PIA.

BTW: this applies to fishing also. With fishing we have the environmentalist and PETA types that have convinced the legislature to put many once accessible fishing streams off limits because they claim, every stream that somehow terminates no matter how abstractly to the ocean, MUST have ONE Steelhead that is native to that tributary, therefor on the endangered species list. I will be fly fishing next month in South Dakota, 1/4 mile from property I own.

FWIW: the DFG people I have encountered hunting and fishing here have without exception been absolutely wonderful. Have given tips on where they have seen recent game activity and how to access that area. Awesome people if you ask me.

Sorry for the long post guys but what you see here you have a pretty good chance of seeing elsewhere in the near future. The key to stopping it is the ability to get young people interested en masse.

Addio
 
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I personally think that anyone that quit hunting over a lead ban was just looking for a reason to quit hunting. I just sucked it up and stick it in their faces. We started having to use steel for waterfowl in the 1970's where I lived, we just kept on killing ducks, steel worked fine if you let them come into the decoys. I moved to the left coast and my state was making noise to ban lead for everything. I worked up loads for my rifles with lead free bullets if the ban would have gone through I would have been out there hunting, not gnashing my teeth over the ban or lack of ammo. It kills coyotes just fine in a half dozen different rifles. I have Lead free copper bullets for my 257 and 7mm ammo worked up for my big game rifles.

If you quit hunting they have WON.
 
I personally think that anyone that quit hunting over a lead ban was just looking for a reason to quit hunting. I just sucked it up and stick it in their faces. We started having to use steel for waterfowl in the 1970's where I lived, we just kept on killing ducks, steel worked fine if you let them come into the decoys. I moved to the left coast and my state was making noise to ban lead for everything. I worked up loads for my rifles with lead free bullets if the ban would have gone through I would have been out there hunting, not gnashing my teeth over the ban or lack of ammo. It kills coyotes just fine in a half dozen different rifles. I have Lead free copper bullets for my 257 and 7mm ammo worked up for my big game rifles.

If you quit hunting they have WON.
They lost because they don’t get my money which is what liberals want more than anything. I didn’t quit hunting I just do it elsewhere and spend my hunting money there. I happen to live close enough to a border it works out just fine.
 

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