OK guys, I must be stupid or something, but I can't understand whay the BTO would not be the same for every bullet when the bullet is seated on the lands. The distance from the bolt face to the lands is fixed and will not change. It seems that regardless of where the ogive is on the bullet, when the bullet is pushed fwd til it touches the lands, you are measuring the distance from the bolt face,or case head) to the lands, and that measurement will be the same as the BTO. I know from experience that the measurement varies, I just can't figure out why. Is there somebody out there that can explain.