BR Load Tuning At A Match

[CharlieNC]

I'm not a BR shooter and don't load at the range. It's intriguing that competitors interpret targets and know what and now much to adjust the load to keep it in tune during a match. I don't know what questions to ask, but can someone highlight the background work and thought process that goes into doing this?

 

[Bill Norris]

I believe Jack Neary will be able to give you first hand experience here with this interview with Erik Cortina on "Believe The Target" He actually goes thru reading the different group formations and tells what to do to the load in order to keep the load in tune from early morning matches thru the day as temps. rise and humidity wears off. Jack is a NBRSA Hall of Fame member and has been for many years. He travels to different matches and events to give classes FREE. He also has I believe 10 different videos on U-tube that breaks down every aspect of the learning process including shooting & load development. Hope this helps.

 

[Bill Norris]

This is the follow-up video in which Jack goes into the details of B R brass prep as well. Both of these share some great details that most likely has helped many new and experienced shooters.

 

[Fast14riot]

In short, testing and validation plus keeping accurate records. Shooting 100+ rounds on a day in X weather produces X result. A week later go shoot another 100 or so rounds in different conditions and record those results. Now change 1 thing and retest. Record those results. D.O.P.E. is much more than just scope clicks.

 

[CharlieNC]

I believe Jack Neary will be able to give you first hand experience here with this interview with Erik Cortina on "Believe The Target" He actually goes thru reading the different group formations and tells what to do to the load in order to keep the load in tune from early morning matches thru the day as temps. rise and humidity wears off. Jack is a NBRSA Hall of Fame member and has been for many years. He travels to different matches and events to give classes FREE. He also has I believe 10 different videos on U-tube that breaks down every aspect of the learning process including shooting & load development. Hope this helps.

Thx, will check these out on a bad weather day.

 

[jackieschmidt]

Thx, will check these out on a bad weather day.

Good idea.
You could question ten different successful shooters about staying on top of the tune at Matches, and possibly get a varied answer from each.

Jack has taken the time to explain his method, in particular using VV 133 powder.

Keep in mind. Learning how to do all of the things that result in match winning performance is a lot like learning to play a musical instrument. You can read every known book ever published about how to play, but until you actually do it on a fairly consistent basis, you will never get much past Chopsticks.

 

[JMayo]

I believe Jack Neary will be able to give you first hand experience here with this interview with Erik Cortina on "Believe The Target" He actually goes thru reading the different group formations and tells what to do to the load in order to keep the load in tune from early morning matches thru the day as temps. rise and humidity wears off. Jack is a NBRSA Hall of Fame member and has been for many years. He travels to different matches and events to give classes FREE. He also has I believe 10 different videos on U-tube that breaks down every aspect of the learning process including shooting & load development. Hope this helps.

I can't believe I've not watched this one. It maybe i forgot. Allot of really good info that can b be used in many ways.

 

[Bill Norris]

Good idea.
You could question ten different successful shooters about staying on top of the tune at Matches, and possibly get a varied answer from each.

Jack has taken the time to explain his method, in particular using VV 133 powder.

Keep in mind. Learning how to do all of the things that result in match winning performance is a lot like learning to play a musical instrument. You can read every known book ever published about how to play, but until you actually do it on a fairly consistent basis, you will never get much past Chopsticks.

Absolutely Jackie, I've talked to several BR shooters that even though the basics are fairly the same they do things a bit differently and don't agree with everything that Jack spells out in his methods and Ideas.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Basically, you just need to know if you're going out the bottom or out the top. You can intentionally load some charges on both sides to know how they look. So when you start to see that shape in your groups, you know whether you need to go up or down in powder. Some guys do the same thing with seating depth. At long-range, there seems to be 2 camps. I would say most of us change powder charge, but there are some guys that never do, and they just adjust seating depth. But with the powders that we typically use any changes are extremely small.

 

[ISS]

Tangent: Jackie, I don't want to play chopsticks; I just want to play "Johnny Be Good..." like Chuck Berry!

 

[BoydAllen]

I'm not a BR shooter and don't load at the range. It's intriguing that competitors interpret targets and know what and now much to adjust the load to keep it in tune during a match. I don't know what questions to ask, but can someone highlight the background work and thought process that goes into doing this?

First of all, none of this is going to go well if you do not load at the range and shoot over a set of flags. You may have noticed that the short range guys pretty much all do this, for their group matches. Neither is window dressing. If your first reaction is to say, well now, I am not going to do either, you need to do a lot of thinking about accuracy being a weakest link thing, and the importance in minimizing the effects of variables when doing a load investigation. If on the other hand you are willing to do both, then any number of good shooters can teach you how to up your game. Your wind flags can be simple sticks with surveyors tape attached to their tops, long enough so that the ribbons just clear the round. For loading, the same stuff, with some adaptation can be made to work just fine. My point is that none of this has to cost much.

 

[rayporter]

i have noticed several comments that would lead me to believe that that many actually have a poor opinion of someone that uses flags.

 

[Gabe22BR]

i have noticed several comments that would lead me to believe that that many actually have a poor opinion of someone that uses flags.

I’m gonna have to come set longer w/ you & Billy next time..

 

[rayporter]

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