Bit by the 22-250 Bug--UPDATE

[sw282]

Started a thread last year ''Bitten By 22-250 Bug''. ln it l mentioned buying my first 22-250. Twas a used Rem700 VLS off the net where the seller mentioned stated the trigger/safety were BROKEN. l got the gun at a great price because of seller's error... Trigger was NOT broken and turned out to be a Jewell trigger that had been improperly installed... l topped the gun with a Leupold VXIII 6.5-20X40 scope.. lt had a Premier reticle installed before my getting it with 4 vertical dots @200-300-400-500yds with a 100yd zero..

Now for the UPDATE... l shot the gun for the first time on Monday @ Jarrett's Range in Jackson SC.. lt was also the first time l had loaded for a 22-250.. Upon setting up to shoot l had 2 different loads for the gun. First up were factory Remington 22-250s... Their budget White Box 45gr JHP @4000fps. This was the ammo l used to zero the Leupold with.. After initial zero l also shot a couple 3 shot groups... Group #1 measured 1.19''.. Second 3shots were .798''... Behind Door #2 were my very first 22-250 loads... l chose a 53gr JHP l had on hand... Don't know the brand as they were BLEM bullets from Midway... A pound of AA 2015 was chosen for the powder.. CCI-200 primer and Rem Brass... Load data was from Accurate Arms load date... AA said 33.5gr was MAX for bullet and 2015 powder.. AA said l should reduce starting load by 10%. That was my start load. After prepping the Rem cases l loaded/seated the bullets @ 2.380'' per AA specs. After firing my first hand load l was surprised the impact point was 5'' below the factory Rem ammo. l re-zeroed the scope and fired 2 3shot groups.. First was a .897''.. Second group was .519'' l liked the last group... With each of the hand load groups 2 shots were close together with one further away.. l showed them to KENNY.. He said l should increase my powder... Next loads will have a bit more 2015.. Will report back after next range trip.. 22-250s are FUN!!

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[urbanrifleman]

If I were doing the 22-250 I would suggest R16 or H4350. We used to shoot Win 760 and it was amazing with a magnum primer. Shot our 40.5 grain 55 grain load in Ohio and South Dakota from 60 degrees to 105.

But if I were doing it today I would try the stable powders, but you can make a lot of ammo fast with Win 760 (H414)

 

[urbanrifleman]

AA 2015 is one of the most under rated powders on the market. It should be very ideal for 40 grain bullets in the 22-250 and should be able to get you well over 4000 fps.

 

[Rdlningcltchdmpr]

I concur, 2015 is best with light bullet's in 22-250. For 53 match bullet's go with slower powders, 748. Around 36 grains ,is old-school but it can be amazing . like .25" amazing. Also 380 is old but great sometimes. Most often best accuracy happen's at max. Or slightly over max listed loads. New powders like cfe223 are amazing. 8208, varget, N540.

 

[Rdlningcltchdmpr]

Started a thread last year ''Bitten By 22-250 Bug''. ln it l mentioned buying my first 22-250. Twas a used Rem700 VLS off the net where the seller mentioned stated the trigger/safety were BROKEN. l got the gun at a great price because of seller's error... Trigger was NOT broken and turned out to be a Jewell trigger that had been improperly installed... l topped the gun with a Leupold VXIII 6.5-20X40 scope.. lt had a Premier reticle installed before my getting it with 4 vertical dots @200-300-400-500yds with a 100yd zero..

Now for the UPDATE... l shot the gun for the first time on Monday @ Jarrett's Range in Jackson SC.. lt was also the first time l had loaded for a 22-250.. Upon setting up to shoot l had 2 different loads for the gun. First up were factory Remington 22-250s... Their budget White Box 45gr JHP @4000fps. This was the ammo l used to zero the Leupold with.. After initial zero l also shot a couple 3 shot groups... Group #1 measured 1.19''.. Second 3shots were .798''... Behind Door #2 were my very first 22-250 loads... l chose a 53gr JHP l had on hand... Don't know the brand as they were BLEM bullets from Midway... A pound of AA 2015 was chosen for the powder.. CCI-200 primer and Rem Brass... Load data was from Accurate Arms load date... AA said 33.5gr was MAX for bullet and 2015 powder.. AA said l should reduce starting load by 10%. That was my start load. After prepping the Rem cases l loaded/seated the bullets @ 2.380'' per AA specs. After firing my first hand load l was surprised the impact point was 5'' below the factory Rem ammo. l re-zeroed the scope and fired 2 3shot groups.. First was a .897''.. Second group was .519'' l liked the last group... With each of the hand load groups 2 shots were close together with one further away.. l showed them to KENNY.. He said l should increase my powder... Next loads will have a bit more 2015.. Will report back after next range trip.. 22-250s are FUN!!

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Seat the bullet out as far as possible, either up next to touching rifling or what the magazine will allow. That is how you will get great accuracy.

 

[K22]

When I shot the 22 250 I got my best accuracy believe or not, with IMR 4350 and 50 grain Nosler bullets. I was only pushing the bullet at about 3,500 f/s but the groups were under 1/4" in my Rem 700, heavy varmint barrel. Shot many of ghogs with this combo but honestly, except for few shots at the 300+ yard range, the 223 Rem would have handle 95% of my shots at ghogs.

I shot the barrel out (at least for varmint level accuracy) quickly and never replaced it - I sold it. I use a 223 Rem exclusively now for varmint and predator hunting since most of my shots are under 250 yards or so for my level of skill using a shooting stick. Also I shoot too much at the range for an over bore cartridge, like the 22 250 to last me very long.

 

[sw282]

Was back at Jarrett Rifles range in Jackson SC today with my 22-250 VLS Remington today.. Kenny had suggested l increase my powder charge to tighten up my groups. I shot ten rds today with an additional 2grs of AA2015... The change tightened my groups down to a best 3 shot group of .455''... A nice size but l want better.. l'm still one grain below what Accurate Arms should be my MAX. My next 10rds will have that additional grain... lf this MAGIC grain gives me 'one hole' groups l will stop there.. lf not, then a primer change will be the next step.

 

[centerlineseal]

When I shot the 22 250 I got my best accuracy believe or not, with IMR 4350 and 50 grain Nosler bullets. I was only pushing the bullet at about 3,500 f/s but the groups were under 1/4" in my Rem 700, heavy varmint barrel. Shot many of ghogs with this combo but honestly, except for few shots at the 300+ yard range, the 223 Rem would have handle 95% of my shots at ghogs.

I shot the barrel out (at least for varmint level accuracy) quickly and never replaced it - I sold it. I use a 223 Rem exclusively now for varmint and predator hunting since most of my shots are under 250 yards or so for my level of skill using a shooting stick. Also I shoot too much at the range for an over bore cartridge, like the 22 250 to last me very long.

IMR4350 is my go to for 55 gr Nosler BTs. Last 40 years, same Ruger 77V. Still consistent 1/2 MOA.

 

[sw282]

Back at Jarrett's Range on Friday with my 22-250 with the MAX loads of AA2015... My best 3 shot group this Friday was .278'' with the other 2 groups being .547 and .430.. l guess my next step will be to try some Federal LR Primers l have on hand.. The .278'' group may be all l can reasonably expect from a used production rifle... We will see next Friday at the range

 

[Evan]

50gn vmax or 53 amax, 35.2gns of IMR-4064 was magical in 3 different barrels I had. It's not a hot load, but it frequently shot in the teens. You do not need max loads to get good accuracy, and your barrel will last much longer if you run a little slower.

 

[john pruitt]

I concur, 2015 is best with light bullet's in 22-250. For 53 match bullet's go with slower powders, 748. Around 36 grains ,is old-school but it can be amazing . like .25" amazing. Also 380 is old but great sometimes. Most often best accuracy happen's at max. Or slightly over max listed loads. New powders like cfe223 are amazing. 8208, varget, N540.

give imr 4895 a try

 

[D Coots]

Are you having signs of pressure with your max loads? Flat primers, hard extraction? Manuel's are just recommendations. Just because it says max load doesn't necessarily mean max in all rifles. Look for pressure signs and proceed in .2 increments. Read up on what to watch for as far as pressure signs.

 

[sw282]

give imr 4895 a try

Since ''old'' AA2015 is no longer available l tried 34gr H4895 last Fri.. Results not as good as old 2015 @.278'' group..

 

[D Coots]

I imagine you have learned one thing from this exercise so far. Don't start out with a small amount of "unobtainum powder" when working up a load.....Good luck.

 

[sw282]

I imagine you have learned one thing from this exercise so far. Don't start out with a small amount of "unobtainum powder" when working up a load.....Good luck.[/QUO

Tis my first 22-250 in shooting or loading.. My experience with the old 2015 certainly wasn't wasted.. l used what l had and would do it again

If you want, you are welcome whats remaining

 

[D Coots]

I'm good thanks.

 

[AckleymanII]

AR Comp with the 50's at 3800 will make you stand up and shout!

 

[urbanrifleman]

AR Comp with the 50's at 3800 will make you stand up and shout!

I am shooting 50 tnts in my 223ackley to 3850 with LT 32.

Which is nutz.

 

[urbanrifleman]

AR Comp with the 50's at 3800 will make you stand up and shout!

Tell me what you think of the AR COMP. I am loving it in 6br Ackley. More data to follow soon!!

 

[urbanrifleman]

Lt32 and the new General Dynamics AA2015 is at least as good as the old commie AA2015, probably better.

I've shot multiple 8 lbs jugs of each.