Hey all,
I'm new to 6mm BR and need to know what is the best method of cleaning the barrel during competition.
Thanks
I'm new to 6mm BR and need to know what is the best method of cleaning the barrel during competition.
Thanks
Best cleaning routine during competition 6mm BR
- Thread starter mparsons911
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It would depend on the type of competition. Short range BR - they clean normally. F-Class or Prone - there is no cleaning as shooters have pit duty when they are not shooting.
I'm just wondering, and I don't think its really jacking his thread.Mark Walker in TX said:
How many shots would you normaly shoot in a day of F-class shooting?
mparsons911 said:
Jackie Schmidt, a short range group BR competitor has said:
"I run three wet patches through the bore soaked with Butches Bore Shine, then brush with about 10 strokes.
I then run enough wet patches through to get the "brush blue" out, and let it soak while I load for the next group.
Before I go to the line, I run a wet patch, then enough dry patches until the barrel is dry. I do the same thing, all of the time, every time. ...."
Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
Never did it in a competition but try some foaming bore clean. I use it on all of my rifles. Fill the barrel and let set ten minutes put three or four patchs thru it and your done. Haven't had any issues.
Hillbilly
Hillbilly
Tozguy said:
??? ??? ??? is there another option out there???? do people actually "lube" bores????? cause i've always shot mine BONE DRY....i've found any sort of left over oil usually causes weird stuff to happen for the first couple shots. when i'm done cleaning i always run a patch soaked with REM OIL down the barrel to keep it wet till the next weekend...and if i don't push a patch through to dry it the frist 2 or 3 rounds will be all over within a 2" group at 100. the second group always comes right back into groups well under 1/2 inch
Barrel cleaning techniques are far from unanimous. It is relatively easy to find ‘experts’ who disagree on one aspect or another of the issue. My only point here is to state that shooting a ‘dry’ bore after cleaning goes against the conclusions of several credible experts. For example, on page 337 of ‘The Precision Shooting Benchrest Primer’, Jim Borden (yes that Jim Borden) writes ‘’Based on my observations, my personal barrel cleaning methods for stainless steel barrels will continue to utilize…….and shoot with a damp bore.’’
It is fairly obvious that after the first fouling shot, the next bullet rides on a layer of powder residue left from the previous shot. Some of the residue ahead of the bullet gets carried to the target and leaves a black ring around the bullet hole in the paper. Some of the residue gets left behind and is ‘ironed’ onto the surface of the bore. At first, this level of fouling is considered desirable and enhances accuracy. However, with repeated shooting this glazing builds up enough to diminish accuracy.
If our cleaning techniques don’t remove the carbon glazing completely then maybe there is enough carbon glazing left to keep the bullet from metal to metal contact with the bore. Even when patches are coming out nice and clean, without a borescope we cannot be sure of how clean the barrel actually is. A so called clean dry bore may not be so clean. The first shot after cleaning could quite possibly still have a layer of carbon to ride on and not need any other kind of lube.
A squeaky clean bore however is a different story. The possibility of metal to metal contact during the first shot after cleaning is an invitation to copper fouling that is to be avoided. My opinion is that a bit of lube is necessary in this situation and is cheap insurance when we can’t be sure if it is needed or not.
For sure the bore should not be shot if it is dripping wet with lube. In the case where ample lube is used for protection during storage, it should be patched out before shooting again. If the lube is of good quality, there will still be a light film of lube left after a patch or two. I would definitely NOT run a bunch of patches through to get the bore bone dry. Faced with having to lube a squeaky clean bore between relays, some experts use something like a colloidal graphite product (Lock Ease) to quickly put an effective barrier in against bullet to bore contact.
It is fairly obvious that after the first fouling shot, the next bullet rides on a layer of powder residue left from the previous shot. Some of the residue ahead of the bullet gets carried to the target and leaves a black ring around the bullet hole in the paper. Some of the residue gets left behind and is ‘ironed’ onto the surface of the bore. At first, this level of fouling is considered desirable and enhances accuracy. However, with repeated shooting this glazing builds up enough to diminish accuracy.
If our cleaning techniques don’t remove the carbon glazing completely then maybe there is enough carbon glazing left to keep the bullet from metal to metal contact with the bore. Even when patches are coming out nice and clean, without a borescope we cannot be sure of how clean the barrel actually is. A so called clean dry bore may not be so clean. The first shot after cleaning could quite possibly still have a layer of carbon to ride on and not need any other kind of lube.
A squeaky clean bore however is a different story. The possibility of metal to metal contact during the first shot after cleaning is an invitation to copper fouling that is to be avoided. My opinion is that a bit of lube is necessary in this situation and is cheap insurance when we can’t be sure if it is needed or not.
For sure the bore should not be shot if it is dripping wet with lube. In the case where ample lube is used for protection during storage, it should be patched out before shooting again. If the lube is of good quality, there will still be a light film of lube left after a patch or two. I would definitely NOT run a bunch of patches through to get the bore bone dry. Faced with having to lube a squeaky clean bore between relays, some experts use something like a colloidal graphite product (Lock Ease) to quickly put an effective barrier in against bullet to bore contact.
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shoot straight....shoot often
In my humble opine ;D.. I wouldn't clean a barrel during comp. Once fouled most rifles shoot their best...I found that out thru my experience.
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