Berger Bullets Production/Inventory Update

[barefooter56]

Shooters ,
Please see the attachment for big news on Berger Bullet production upgrade and current inventory availability.

Berger Bullets In Stock Now!
Posted May 26, 2016

We take great pride and delight in relaying the news that Berger has successfully proven a significant increase in the amount of match grade quality bullets we can produce. After implementing the solution to our jacket making process in March of 2016, we are averaging nearly two times our record jacket output. The best news is that these jackets meet and beat our industry leading .0003 TIR wall uniformity tolerance. Additionally, as an unexpected side benefit, they are also exceeding our expectations in bullet forming performance.

We’ve been working very hard on a key challenge at Berger. The challenge is in reducing the excessive time it takes to set up the jacket making press to achieve the .0003 or better TIR wall thickness uniformity that is required. A set up that should take between 3 to 5 days frequently stretched into several weeks. And far too frequently, set ups that took weeks ran into months.

This reality had a tremendous negative impact on our ability to make enough bullets. It also made it impossible for us to establish a dependable production schedule. We recognize that many who enjoy the higher quality Berger provides are willing to wait but they can’t wait forever especially lacking a reasonably accurate notion of how long. Our shooters are understandably compelled to create loads with other brands since it is better to shoot anything than it is to not shoot at all regardless of which brand is being used.

The good news is that those who have been frustrated by the lack of availability of Berger Bullets will see that we’ve solved this problem in a big way. I am thrilled to relay that we are two months into a jacket production output rate that is nearly two times our highest output rate to date and, of course, the jacket quality is the same (and in some ways better). It is clear now that we’ve identified and resolved the bottleneck in our ability to consistently produce .0003 TIR jackets.

This is not to suggest that many things were going poorly, but as a result of us being empowered with these impactful tools, we see now how we can use them to explore important things in new and enhanced ways. Getting stronger with using these tools means nothing but good things for our shooters, their results and the rifle shooting experience.

I regard these and other soon to be announced changes to Berger as being as impactful to the rifle shooting experience as the day Walt turned his first jacket to achieve .0003 TIR over half a century ago. Shooters will see for themselves that our bullets are more readily available and will continue to be in far greater numbers. This marks the dawning of a new age for Berger and for those who shoot our bullets. We didn’t change everything; we are making what was already great even better, genuinely.

–Eric Stecker, President

Below is a list of the bullets we currently have in stock.

Contact us today to place your order, while supplies last.

Order Online: buybergerbullets.com

714-441-7200 or sales@bergerbullets.com.


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http://www.bergerbullets.com/inventory-update/

Take care,
Phil Hoham
Berger Bullet Tech

 

[Dan Boone]

Thanks for the update Phil.

In the accompanying picture of bullet listings, I didn't see the 6mm 95 grain hunting listed. PLEASE tell me that it isn't being discontinued !

 

[barefooter56]

Thanks for the update Phil.

In the accompanying picture of bullet listings, I didn't see the 6mm 95 grain hunting listed. PLEASE tell me that it isn't being discontinued !

Dan Boone,
6mm 95 Hunting VLD or CLASSIC HUNTER are NOT being cancelled. Tentative production is end of June 2016

 

[expiper]

PS>...dont forget 6mm 90 gr,,,!!!!!....Roger

 

[stacy]

DONT FORGET THE .224 90GRS VLD'S !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[barefooter56]

DONT FORGET THE .224 90GRS VLD'S !!!!!!!!!!!

Stacy,
.224 90grain VLD target bullets- tentative production is end of June 2016.

 

[stacy]

THANK YOU SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dan Boone]

Dan Boone,
6mm 95 Hunting VLD or CLASSIC HUNTER are NOT being cancelled. Tentative production is end of June 2016

Thanks for the reply. My 243 loves them.

 

[barefooter56]

Thanks for the reply. My 243 loves them.

 

[ericskennard]

Stacy,
.224 90grain VLD target bullets- tentative production is end of June 2016.

Let's see. First it was last September. Then you told me May. Maybe 2017?

When one of my competitors called Berger and asked when he could replenish the 90 VLD for his .223 FTR, He was told to get a .30 caliber as you had lots of those.

I am glad you have learned ways to improve your jackets. I only hope we can get some of the bullets that we spent lots of time and money perfecting .223 loads with your bullets only to not be able to get them anymore.

 

[barefooter56]

Let's see. First it was last September. Then you told me May. Maybe 2017?

When one of my competitors called Berger and asked when he could replenish the 90 VLD for his .223 FTR, He was told to get a .30 caliber as you had lots of those.

I am glad you have learned ways to improve your jackets. I only hope we can get some of the bullets that we spent lots of time and money perfecting .223 loads with your bullets only to not be able to get them anymore.

ericskennard,
We are implementing new production scheduling practices and have effectively doubled our jacket and bullet production capabilities to end or greatly reduce the time of our bullets being being out of stock. Our apologies for this inconvenience and know that we are doing our best to rectify the situation. New tentative production date for the 90 grain VLD target bullets shows end of June 2016.
Take care,

 

[Mozella]

Phil Hoham
Berger Bullet Tech Support

I use your 80gr VLDs in my 1:7 twist .223 F/TR gun and win my share of matches. I've tried 90gr Sierra Match Kings and I can get some groups to group well, but the next 5 are not good at all. In other words, there is a hint of promise, but I gave up because of lack of consistency.

Now that the Berger 90gr VLDs are on the near horizon, is it worth my while testing a batch with a calculated SG or 1.39? Or should I save my time and money and stick with Berger 80gr VLDs based on the group consistency problems with the Sierra 90gr bullets?

 

[barefooter56]

Phil Hoham
Berger Bullet Tech Support

I use your 80gr VLDs in my 1:7 twist .223 F/TR gun and win my share of matches. I've tried 90gr Sierra Match Kings and I can get some groups to group well, but the next 5 are not good at all. In other words, there is a hint of promise, but I gave up because of lack of consistency.

Now that the Berger 90gr VLDs are on the near horizon, is it worth my while testing a batch with a calculated SG or 1.39? Or should I save my time and money and stick with Berger 80gr VLDs based on the group consistency problems with the Sierra 90gr bullets?

Mozella,
With that 1.39 SG due to your 1-7 twist barrel and altitude. The 80 grain VLD , 80.5 FULLBORE, or 82 grain LRBT would be your best choices to try. Your 1-7 twist barrel is optimum for those and you will not be compromising your BC. When the 1-7 barrel wears out go the 1-6 for the 90 grain bullets.
Take care,

 

[Ned Ludd]

Mozella,
I'm pushing the 90 VLDs at 2850 fps from a 30" barrel and a 7-twist barrel and the Berger twist rate calculator gives me Sg = 1.40, very close to your value. I have had no issues whatsoever shooting these bullets out to 1000 yd. You may be giving up a bit of BC, but they can still perform well. In my hands, the key was seating them at ~.015 off the lands (PTG Rem ISSF reamer with .0169" freebore). Others have found they need to be from .005" - .010" into the lands. So seating depth is key for consistent performance with the 90s.

 

[Mozella]

Mozella,
I'm pushing the 90 VLDs at 2850 fps from a 30" barrel and a 7-twist barrel and the Berger twist rate calculator gives me Sg = 1.40, very close to your value. I have had no issues whatsoever shooting these bullets out to 1000 yd. You may be giving up a bit of BC, but they can still perform well. In my hands, the key was seating them at ~.015 off the lands (PTG Rem ISSF reamer with .0169" freebore). Others have found they need to be from .005" - .010" into the lands. So seating depth is key for consistent performance with the 90s.

Thanks. As I said before, the SMK 90s shoot well in one group and not so hot the next; i.e. poor consistency. But that is not proof that the Bergers won't do better. I only shoot to 600 yards, so I don't need all the potential BC, especially since there is a significant increase in BC with the 90gr VLDs when compared to the 80gr VLDs, as long as I get sufficient accuracy AND consistency. I think it's worth trying a box of 100 at a cost cheaper than my average bar bill.

 

[barefooter56]

Thanks. As I said before, the SMK 90s shoot well in one group and not so hot the next; i.e. poor consistency. But that is not proof that the Bergers won't do better. I only shoot to 600 yards, so I don't need all the potential BC, especially since there is a significant increase in BC with the 90gr VLDs when compared to the 80gr VLDs, as long as I get sufficient accuracy AND consistency. I think it's worth trying a box of 100 at a cost cheaper than my average bar bill.

Mozella,
I saw F-Class and my mind went straight out to 1000 yards. gstaylorg did make a good point. Just because you lose some BC dosen't mean it cant work. Just make sure the SG is 1.4 or close to give your self wiggle room. At 600 yards you will be just fine. You already have a load for the 80gr VLDs so try the 90s. You never know what you'll find. See if you can find a sample pack or two of the 90s at Bullet Samples.com (?) or Sinclair International also carries the Bullet Sample packs too. Save some money for that extra Bourbon on the rocks ( light on the rocks) after a hard day on the range !