I dropped a 70-80lb. hog last year at about 300yds with the 140 Hybrid 6.5mm... It hit the thing like electricity.. After 20 sec it started kicking in a circle then lights out... Had no exit wound and gave the pig to someone so I didn't get to see the damage.. I'm guessing it's insides looked like a grenade went off judging by the tests I did shooting into a special medium.. The 130gr OTM supposed to have a thicker jacket.. Just set up a 1qt oil bottle feeled with water in front of a stack of thick card board to catch the bullet (it doesn't have to stop it just show you an entrance etc... What you will find if you can get good expansion by the bullet traveling through just 1 qt of water is that it will kill effectively..hydenseek said:Has anybody tried them?