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Beating a dead horse.....

Highpower-FClass said:
You can see your shooting activity (results) and current classifications if you go to this site and register:
https://competitor.nra.org/Login.aspx

There is a Register link on the right of the page. If you click that link it will ask you need to enter your name, NRA number and specify a user name and password to use.

Once registered you can log in and on the 'Competitive Shooting Dashboard' you will see your classifications at the top of the page. Towards the bottom right of the same page there is a 'Competitor Activity' link where you can see all match results that NRA has on record for you.

If you do not see results for matches you have shot you can call the main NRA number and go through the prompts to get to the competition / classifications department. They can help determine why the results are not showing.
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I've been logging in and monitoring my progress this past year and a half. I just wondered because back when I shooting smallbore I enjoyed getting the card and stickers in the mail and now that I'm doing highpower no such card or sticker has shown up. But, if they are as short handed as it appears I'm not going to bother them for such trivial things as stickers and cards.
 
My personal dealings with the NRA Comp Division appears to be similar to others who have posted. Saying it is "less than stellar" feels like I'm trivializing my true feelings. Not too many years ago they ran about 3 months behind. Now it's more than a year behind? Unacceptable.

As they continue to not post national records, the submitted paperwork must be stacking up on someones desk(?) As a MD who's taken the time to gladly submit shooters records, I feel bad for the shooters having to wait to find out if, in fact, they broke a national record. Keeping it current would be more respectful for competitors and match directors.
 
Was considering a lifetime membership but then decided that I was satisfied with the response of the NRA to the competition community. Could it be I am taken for granted as I have to be an NRA member anyway to maintain my record and classification?
 
Jdne5b said:
Be a shame if another competitive shooting sanctioning body was born.
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Wouldn't the CMP be considered a sanctioning body? Don't they have their own set of national records? They are surely running parallel programs to the NRA. Then, for smallbore, there are three sanctioning bodies, the ASSA, the NRA, and the CMP.

How's that for adding to the confusion factor?
 
corning said:
Wouldn't the CMP be considered a sanctioning body? Don't they have their own set of national records? They are surely running parallel programs to the NRA. Then, for smallbore, there are three sanctioning bodies, the ASSA, the NRA, and the CMP.

How's that for adding to the confusion factor?
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I guess they do. They should add F-Class to their disciplines.
 
Just yesterday afternoon, I was shown the stack of National Record submissions. It is up to February 2019. Five days ago it was at April 2018.

That’s a huge amount of progress by one person doing this in the downtime from her primary tasks at the National Matches. But, there IS someone doing it now.

Will this continue after the matches end? I don’t know.
 
While it's certainly good news that the NRA has done two National Record updates over the last week or so, the fact remains that prior to that, there was a backlog of some 16 months! As Nowhere Man has pointed out, it was only several years ago that these records were processed in 3 to 4 months. So how did this happen? I can tell you that it wasn't because Match Directors weren't sending in record forms. It was because this was an absolute non-priority by the leadership of the Competitive Shooting Division. Record applications were processed when and if someone had time. Backlogs went from several months to nine months, then a year, until finally it was 16 months. One wonders why this is such a difficult task for the NRA. The Match Directors do the heavy lifting here in preparing and submitting the necessary forms and documentation to the NRA. The NRA simply has to review the paperwork and documentation and check to see that the score beats the existing record. If it does, then approve it. Am I missing something here?

While the recent NRA actions are welcome, in my opinion more needs to be done. The NRA should commit to a formal timetable for processing these records so members know what to expect when they are fortunate enough to shoot a qualifying score. And Match Directors can be confident knowing that the NRA record website is up to date so they are not fruitlessly sending in applications for records that have already been broken but not processed. Is there any reason that the NRA can't commit to processing records within 30 days of receipt?

I think it would be particularly helpful to hear from the Competitive Shooting Division on this. One can only hope.
 
This has been an ongoing thing. According to the linked article from this website, in 2012 we had a youth shooter set a record at a match at Red Castle Gun Club in Tulsa. I was squadded with him the next day and he was a great kid. The paperwork was submitted, but a couple months later someone else broke his record. The NRA never even recognized him. They just skipped over him and went straight to the next one. That's not right. Anyone that has shot Red Castle knows that this guy earned the right to be recognized. Not a very good way to encourage young shooters.

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com...r-national-record-in-his-first-f-class-match/
 
If they had saved the money from all the phone calls, junk mail and cheap Chinese pocket knives they've sent me over the years they could have hired an extra person or two.. Had a phone call a while back to renew my membership. I'd already been a life member for 20 years.. I know I've had a few close calls, but damn I ain't dead and come back yet, lol
 
m1jeff said:
Just yesterday afternoon, I was shown the stack of National Record submissions. It is up to February 2019. Five days ago it was at April 2018.

That’s a huge amount of progress by one person doing this in the downtime from her primary tasks at the National Matches. But, there IS someone doing it now.

Will this continue after the matches end? I don’t know.
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Shelly? Tell her thank you.
 
IMHO: if you do not compete in that specific competition; why would you care? For instance, does anybody here know who won the Quigley Match in June? Or, the Schuetzen championships at Raton? Or the Short Range BR matches at Kelblys...?

You must all understand, the NRA's primary concern is keeping the democrats from outlawing private ownership of firearms these days.
 
IdahoSharpshooter said:
IMHO: if you do not compete in that specific competition; why would you care? ….snip....
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If you DO compete in those disciplines...you care. National records are just that, National RECORDS. 'Record' means recorded somewhere. Who knows the record if it is not recorded and published by the official sanctioning body? I know the NRA has other fish to fry but rifle competitions are at the core of the foundation of the organization. With their tremendous budget it is mils on the $K to put forth more staffing for this duty. Hell, the fees sent to the NRA as part of our approved/registered match fees should provide a fair amount of money toward the process.

Robin
 
Eovin,

it should, but it does not really matter that much to them. Be happy; it has not mattered to the Competition Committee for several years now if the Black Powder matches are even held at Raton. BPCRS or Long Range.
 
I do not compete in any matches but after reading this thread it bothers me that the NRA seems to have a lackadaisical outlook on record keeping. I have been a lifetime member for over 20 years and I know that the NRA seems to be concerned about protecting our rights but long term they need to put their membership first. After reading the comments about the kid who was passed over leaves a bad taste in my mouth. There are other organizations out there (and growing!) who have taken up the fight to protect the 2nd. GOA comes to mind. Perhaps the NRA would be better served by focusing on education, marksmanship, competitions, and record keeping and leave some of the politics to other entities. Who knows, it may even get a bit of positive PR for a change. There are now a few young bulls in the china shop, so maybe the old NRA bull can relax a bit and do what it was created to do.
 
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