barrel vise and action wrench help...

[Sniper338]

I read the other thread going here on barrel vices and after that generous offer by mr viper i looked up the vises on bullets.com... Im going to order one tonight or tomorrow... my quetion is.... what action wrench do i need to get for rem 700 actions and defiance machine actions? The kind that slips in the raceway, or one that wrapes around the action?

And where the heck do i buy it at?!


Id like to be as gentle with the actions as possible and not mar or scar anything up there too.....

 

[timeout]

I have one of these and like it:

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?topic=3762965.msg35940647;topicseen#msg35940647

 

[Sniper338]

I saw that... $90!!!.... the vice is cheaper than the wrench!!

 

[timeout]

Buy once, cry once. With few exceptions, you generally get what you pay for. ;D

 

[SmokinJoe]

Buy Paul's action wrench, it is in line with other similar wrenches, but it is heat treated steel & has a nice black oxide finish. You won't find those features on most of the other rear entry wrenches. The same wrench should work on both your actions. Call Paul & he will be happy to discuss what you need.

 

[Sniper338]

Buy once, cry once. With few exceptions, you generally get what you pay for. ;D

thats what i was afraid of.... :'( i keep buying and keep crying.... almost got most things i need though...

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

I have one of these and like it:

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?topic=3762965.msg35940647;topicseen#msg35940647

+1

Great quality tools and great service from Paul.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Ou4VPLjJ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYQ-bNDgf2M

 

[CatShooter]

Besides a wrench and vise, for Rem 700 type actions, you will need a lug alignment jig - or you will never get the recoil lug back on straight.

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/rifle-tools/index.htm?k=lug&ksubmit=y

 

[Baddog0302]

Besides a wrench and vise, for Rem 700 type actions, you will need a lug alignment jig - or you will never get the recoil lug back on straight.

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/rifle-tools/index.htm?k=lug&ksubmit=y

Your link shows 3 alignment tools, all for 700's is there any difference besides the color ?

 

[fdshuster]

baddog0302: Another way of securing the recoil lug is to have it pinned to the receiver eliminating the need to remove the receiver from the stock to change barrels. But, the barrel cannot be torqued excessively ( over 85 ft. lb.?) or there is the risk of shearing the pin.

I have and use the Kleinendorst tool, in addition to other receivers being pinned. Both ways get the job done, just by a different method.

 

[Sniper338]

Besides a wrench and vise, for Rem 700 type actions, you will need a lug alignment jig - or you will never get the recoil lug back on straight.

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/rifle-tools/index.htm?k=lug&ksubmit=y

Thank you so much..... i would have learned that one that hard way if you wouldnt have posted that!!! My lugs pinned on the rem 700... My main actions are defiance deviants so i didnt have to even think about that.... its integrated into the action build...

 

[Uthink Uknow]

Ninety nine percent of benchrest shooters use rear entry wrenches for a reason or two. With the rear entry you have a contact with the action very near to the barrel. This means you do not have the torque on the action itself. You don't need to remove the scope to change barrels. Also with the wrench in the action, you don't need to remove the action from the stock and in the case of round actions you don't need to wrap the action or tug and hope you get it right. With a port entry wrench you run the risk of marring the port or the raceways. Those Paul wrenches are all I would use for more than one reason. They are hard and tough and will last a lifetime or more. They are a perfect fit for the action that they are built for. Because they are hard, they will work on factory actions with no damage to the wrench or the action. When you consider what a wrench of lesser quality can do to an expensive action, well, why risk it?

 

[Road_Clam]

In my peticular situation where I have an unbedded aftermarket Bell & Carleson stock, I did not see the need for a critically perpindicular aligned recoil lug. The stock cavity where the lug resides is about .500" wider than my lug, and also deeper so even if my lug is slightly out of rotation It makes no difference with respect to the fit and function of the lug. I used a precision bubble level and my lug is dam close to perfect (if not perfect) without the use of a physical bolted/pinned tool. **Disreguard this statement if you have a precision bedded stock. Feel free to chime in if my thinking is incorrect....