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Barrel nut..Stiller P-1000 project

This is a reply to an older post, but I thought I would bring it up again. If you have the equipment and ability to true up a barrel nut, you should just dump the factory one and build your own. Everything will be centered, and you can start your inside thread cut and take 3 or 4 passes, then finish out with a good tap by hand. Now you have a square and true nut that you can fit to the action OD. I just did one for my Stiller P-1000 large... 1.550 ins. I know it's as true as the action and the threads are clean and true. Use a taper tap, not a plug tap.
 

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How did you hold the nut. A tap will just follow the existing thread path. Any existing runout will just be bigger.

Nat Lambeth
 
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The nut was still chucked up in the lathe, and I used the tail stock for a hold on the back end of the tap. The tap follows the shallow cuts already in the ID.
 
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Yes, the tap will follow the undersized thread. Are the headstock and tailstock in perfect alignment? Few are. As stated above, any misalignment will be magnified. Seems a few more passes with the single point tool would result in a closer fitting, and a closer to square thread to nut face. 10 minutes max as set-up would probably take more time than the cutting.
 
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I use a square flat plate in the tail stock, and the threads are very good...as good as they need to be. The action threads are mated to the barrel threads, the face of the nut is perfectly square and the nut threads just tighten the action face and the nut face for a perfect mating. The nut threads are not quit as critical as the barrel and action threads.
 
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Just finished the barrel and assembled the parts. Next is making the laminated stock...I have a great piece of Brazilian cherry wood for that. Will keep updating..
 

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madderg said:
I use a square flat plate in the tail stock, and the threads are very good...as good as they need to be. The action threads are mated to the barrel threads, the face of the nut is perfectly square and the nut threads just tighten the action face and the nut face for a perfect mating. The nut threads are not quit as critical as the barrel and action threads.

Just my humble + 1 on what Rustystud and Shortgrass have stated,

I suggest you thread a rod to match with the nut, screw it on when the threaded rod is still in the chuck and check the nut shoulder with a dial incicator....Many chances then you decide your nut is just gppd for the scrap bin.

R.G.C
 
Well this one turned out just fine... the first one I built was many years ago and my older brother helped take it from paper to steel and taught me how. He's passed on now but I think he knew his stuff... he was a master tool and die maker and a master machine engineer out of Chicago and considered on of the best . He used to take ideas others said could not be done, charge an arm and a leg and build them!! He helped design and make carbide reduction systems for extruding steel like tooth paste under hundreds of metric ton pressures... if it wasn't perfect it was a bomb that could take out the machine and the enclosure.
 
madderg said:
Well this one turned out just fine... the first one I built was many years ago and my older brother helped take it from paper to steel and taught me how. He's passed on now but I think he knew his stuff... he was a master tool and die maker and a master machine engineer out of Chicago and considered on of the best . He used to take ideas others said could not be done, charge an arm and a leg and build them!! He helped design and make carbide reduction systems for extruding steel like tooth paste under hundreds of metric ton pressures... if it wasn't perfect it was a bomb that could take out the machine and the enclosure.
Well, that certainly "out does" me. I'm just a lowly job shop machinist with 35+ years of experience. Got a real nice diploma from a 2 year gunsmithing program, too,,,,,, and I still don't know chit!
 
shortgrass said:
madderg said:
Well this one turned out just fine... the first one I built was many years ago and my older brother helped take it from paper to steel and taught me how. He's passed on now but I think he knew his stuff... he was a master tool and die maker and a master machine engineer out of Chicago and considered on of the best . He used to take ideas others said could not be done, charge an arm and a leg and build them!! He helped design and make carbide reduction systems for extruding steel like tooth paste under hundreds of metric ton pressures... if it wasn't perfect it was a bomb that could take out the machine and the enclosure.
Well, that certainly "out does" me. I'm just a lowly job shop machinist with 35+ years of experience. Got a real nice diploma from a 2 year gunsmithing program, too,,,,,, and I still don't know chit!

You just ain't gonna convince this guy!!!!
 
Finally started on the stock...been sick for 3 weeks. I've got a lot of shaping and sanding left, but its a start. The wood is Paduak.
 

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shortgrass said:
madderg said:
Well this one turned out just fine... the first one I built was many years ago and my older brother helped take it from paper to steel and taught me how. He's passed on now but I think he knew his stuff... he was a master tool and die maker and a master machine engineer out of Chicago and considered on of the best . He used to take ideas others said could not be done, charge an arm and a leg and build them!! He helped design and make carbide reduction systems for extruding steel like tooth paste under hundreds of metric ton pressures... if it wasn't perfect it was a bomb that could take out the machine and the enclosure.
Well, that certainly "out does" me. I'm just a lowly job shop machinist with 35+ years of experience. Got a real nice diploma from a 2 year gunsmithing program, too,,,,,, and I still don't know chit!

+1 shortgrass
 
madderg,

That is the nicest looking barrel nut that I have ever seen. Nice job. Looking forward to seeing the finished rifle. Keep up the good work. 8)

Regards,
Paul

www.boltfluting.com
 
It won,t be that bad for heavy class, and the wood is pretty. All the metal pieces like trigger guard and bolt guards are gonna be brass... if I ever get More time to make them.
 
... can't sand anymore till tomorrow because I can't hold the sander anymore!! Starting to look very nice, I love the colors in this wood. The finish will really bring them out, that will be in another week or so.
 

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This new clear coat I'm using is GREAT!!! KBS clear diamond finish. It's a 2 part epoxy pre-mixed that air cures. It has more shine and strength than anything I've ever come across. It looked great before I sanded it down to 1500 grit and then buffed it out...the shine from buffing was not near as good as the brushed on look it had before. So, I gave it 2 more thin coats. These pictures don't do it justice but I'll get better ones tomorrow when I put the rifle together. Once again, a great product!!
 

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