Bad powder

[mr45man]

Here is a story that you will not believe.
At the local gun club 3 guns were damaged, over about a 6 mo.
period
Shooter #1 totaled an AR 223 with a reload using ball C 2 powder
he got from the widow next door. Luckily he was not seriously injured
So he gives this powder to shooter # 2 who promptly blow's up a Tika 308 using the same powder. It is now a 2 piece stock,no bottom metal, and the action is locked up. And he too he was not seriously injured
Ok here is the best or is it the worst part of this story,shooter # 2 decides to give this can of powder one more try in his lever
30-30 with a reduced load that was supposed to be 2200 fps according to the book. Well he cronoed the first and last shot.
At 2700, locked up that gun,took it to a smith who got it apart
and the barrel toast.
I talked to shooter #2 today and he STILL HAS THE STUFF?
Just unbelievable
John H.

 

[doc gordon]

tell us what powder name and #

 

[Charlie-NY]

Sounds like someone returned the wrong powder to the can. Sprinkle it on the tomatoes and and get some explosive growth. ;D

 

[lrgoodger]

I had a can (yeah, back then it was in cans) of BLC2 like that back in the mid 70s. Never have trusted it since.

 

[DRNewcomb]

Moral of the story, never trust a powder you get from an unknown source. The widow had no idea what it was. Her husband may have filled the BL-C(2) can with 296 or some other super-fast powder.

 

[fdshuster]

One of my reasons for never using powder unless the can was factory sealed when I got it. Opened? Keep it & use it yourself!

 

[jonbearman]

Please for Gods sake talk him into getting rid of it.

 

[VaniB]

What happened to the genius who had posted a reply right here in this spot where I am posting this now?? He was saying something to the effect that he really didn't see the need to throw out the powder if it was more then 1 lb of it. He was summizing that a few pounds of an unknown powder which was blowing up everybody's gun was "too costly to just throw out". : I guess the mod deleted his post, or perhaps he realized how stupid that sounded and deleted it himself.

So yes to the OP, I can believe it!!!! Geeez.....talk about how 2nd and 3rd parties will come along seeing and knowing what has already happened and STILL insist on being penny wise and eyes or fingers foolish!!

 

[bheadboy]

THAT STUFF IS WHAT GIVES US A BAD NAME, BECAUSE SOME ONE IS WILLING TO USE IT KNOWING THE DANGER, HISTORY AND THE DUMMBER IS TO GIVE IT TO ANOTHER CLUB MEMBER,

CLUB SHOULD KICK THEM OUT.

BOB

 

[DRNewcomb]

What happened to the genius who had posted a reply right here in this spot where I am posting this now??

Oh the genius is still right here. Unless the powder in question shows physical degradation, the most likely explanation for the problem is that it is mislabeled and therefore an unknown powder. Essentially every surplus "pull down" powder is an unknown until someone tests it. There applications where there is no such thing as a powder that is "too fast". The potential value of the unknown powder determines if the testing is worth the effort or not.

BTW, the powder did not destroy two guns. The load the handloader produced with an unknown powder did that. It's the person who is responsible. One might be able to excuse the first reloader for using the powder as labeled. However, if he told the 2nd that he'd blown up his AR with that powder and the 2nd proceeded to treat the powder as anything but completely unknown, then he has no one to blame but himself for the results. Same with the 3rd user.

 

[ar15topgun]

Remember 3rd time is a charm for the Darwin award. ASININE

 

[Raythemanroe]

Some Canon fuse (Boom)! Maybe some wood chuck or Prairie Dog eradication?

 

[dragman]

wait wait???? there are different kinds of powder for different guns??? I'm in trouble

 

[ebb]

If you are dumb ya gotta be tough!