attached brass catcher - legal in SR competition?

[Jay Christopherson]

Is an attached brass catcher (i.e., the Caldwell-style or other) legal for high power competition (service rifle)? I've seen somewhere that the answer is "Yes for NRA, but no for CMP"... but, that was not any sort of official ruling that I could see.

I'm just looking for a way to control my brass during a prone match. I've been the recipient of a piece of hot brass in the crack of my *ss shooting F-Class next to a SR competitor and I don't want to be the guy doing that to someone next to me.

 

[kzin]

Don't know the answer.

Are you intending to single load through or around a brass catcher?
I bought one and never used it after I saw how difficult that would be.

Our range has a few movable screens in case anybody is getting too pummeled.

 

[Jay Christopherson]

Don't know the answer.

Are you intending to single load through or around a brass catcher?
I bought one and never used it after I saw how difficult that would be.

Our range has a few movable screens in case anybody is getting too pummeled.

I'm more at the thinking-about-it stage than the intending-to-use it stage. Like you say, I'm not sure I could manage single-loading around or through the catcher. I might just go the screen route, but I was sort of hoping for something I don't have to lug around (as much).

 

[geraldgee]

Have you considered the brass deflector that Brownell and others sell? I’ve not tried one but as I understand they deflect the brass straight down. It might work.

Good luck

Gerald

 

[Nowhere Man]

I have used the Caldwell catcher at local matches. I left the bag unzipped allowing easy access to reloads. I thought it worked well and dropped the brass straight down.

 

[Monte F]

If you have the room to set your rifle case next to you opened 90 degrees to catch the brass. That works well for me shooting AR midrange prone, others set their stool next to them to deflect the brass.

 

[akajun]

Just move your shooting stool to where all your brass in prone goes into it. That’s what 90% of us service rifle shooters do.
If it flings it too far forward , take the ejector out and take off .010 of the face of the ejector pin until it ejects reliably where you want. You can go up to .040 I believe. Do not cut the spring.

 

[Fast14riot]

I use the clip on brass deflector and it dumps the brass straight down onto my mat. For other rifles I made a "butterfly net" style catcher that I set to my right. Some people use a pool net in a block of wood, I used a $3 laundry bag and a small fiberglass rod, drill two holes in a block for the rod and done.

 

[dkhunt14]

If it's attaches to the gun, wouldn't it count towards weight. Most my guns wouldn't make weight with something attached. Or does SR not have a weight? Matt

 

[memilanuk]

Or does SR not have a weight?

Not unless they added it recently (last few years). Used to be they made lead weights that fit under A2 hand guards, wedges that fit up inside the cleaning kit storage area in the butt, plus people would put wheel weights up in the hollow of the pistol grip. 17-18# wasn't uncommon. Sling up with a gun like that and it barely *moves*

 

[geraldgee]

I have read where others have formed deflectors for their AR's from Kydex. Kydex would not add much weight and should be easy to work with. Added bonus - if someone were to design a functional deflector that is easy to install with wide application - it would probably sell like hotcakes.

 

[Jay Christopherson]

thanks guys, lots of good ideas here for me to try.

 

[kzin]

If it's attaches to the gun, wouldn't it count towards weight. Most my guns wouldn't make weight with something attached. Or does SR not have a weight? Matt

No weight for 'Service Rifle' in CMP or NRA

When optics came in there was talk of weight limit for optics but not for irons. That was either briefly in force or never became rule at all.

There IS a weight limit(8.5#) for CMP 'Modern Military' ARs but it seems to be often ignored.

 

[akajun]

There is no weight limit for service rifle. Attaching something like a brass catcher would violate the as issued part of the rules though. However if all your going to use it for is prone matches, go ahead, there's no official service rifle class for prone matches. Our local match director will have a service rifle class but if your gun doesn't meet the rules, you just go to regular prone classification.

 

[Twitchy]

I've seen a few guys use a variation of this to catch the brass. Easily transported.

 

[Fast14riot]

Two models, one for A2 and the one with the fingers is for under a scope base.

https://www.brownells.com/shooting-...ers-deflectors/brass-deflector-prod18554.aspx

 

[Fast14riot]

Ignore the text, i did thjs photo for a bullet manufacturer, but you can see the clip on brass deflector i use and most everyone uses for SR.

 

[dcali]

Not sure, but it definitely goes against the spirt of the game. You're SUPPOSED to fling hot brass at your competitors. By accident of course.

More seriously, most guys just put a shooting stool/cart up on the line next to them on the right and trim the ejector/spring to make it less obnoxious.

 

[6BRLongRange]

Not sure, but it definitely goes against the spirt of the game. You're SUPPOSED to fling hot brass at your competitors. By accident of course.

Nothing like a good hot 308 case going down the collar between the shooting coat and the skin to cause you to “misfire” on the neighbor ha ha

 

[akajun]

Nothing like a good hot 308 case going down the collar between the shooting coat and the skin to cause you to “misfire” on the neighbor ha ha

I got a 2nd degree burn from a garand 3006 at perry one year in the games. I could throw my rifle in the ground and get that coat off fast enough