At the Range

[MGYSGT]

Was cleaning up at the range the other day while the guys were changing targets. You know, using the leaf blower to clean the concrete walkways and such. While walking back to the firing line I passed one of the shooting tables where there were two older (older than me and I am sneaking up on 70) gents giving instructions to a new AR shooter on how to adjust his scope. They were shooting 50 yards to get it sighted in. While I passed I heard one of them say, move it 15 clicks to the left. This caught my attention. So I looked over at them. First thing I noticed was they were adjusting the windage on the left side of the scope. Huh!! The light came on. The scope was on the rifle Backwards. As politely as I could, I informed them of the problem. Oh my. One of the older gents throws his hand up in the air and shouts, it's a spectator sport now. Then says he's so mad he needs to take a walk to calm down. While he is gone I convince the new shooter to turn his scope around, because I truly believe that windage adjustment is an industry standard and it's always on the right side of the scope. His scope was a Millett AR. Any how, as I am walking away the hothead comes back and mumbles something to me. I told him he had no business teaching anyone, anything about shooting. He went for another walk. Next time I will not try and help. I will just stand there and laugh. EDIT: Forgot to mention the scope had 3 turrets. The one on the left if correctly mounted was for illumination of the reticle.

 

[muleman69]

You did the right thing for sure,Could have been a problem that was a lot more dangerous. Old hot head needs to stick to something he no's (if he no's anything at all)

 

[338 Mollett]

WOW !Good story,life is tough it is even tougher when they are stupid.

 

[Depart123]

I was next to a couple of gentlemen in thier 60's at the range a couple of weeks ago. They didn't like hearing that thier Harris bipod was on backwards.

 

[Ggmac]

All my 36x fixed are on with windage on left . I have had them that way for 40 plus years . Why try to fit your hand between the turret and loading port ? Why move your position when needing to change windage ? I'm right handed shooting from bench . On the older scopes , there's equal elevation and windage in the scope . Open turrets are a bit high and block the ejection ports .
You could change turret tops , the only dif would be windage direction would be opposite ( as if we need to look at those anymore ) .
It works , it's faster , no turret being hit by your hand or ejected shell ( if you eject shells and don't just extract )
Don't know about ar scopes
The gentleman that told me to try this was a Redfield rep at Williamsport after I won a Redfield 6400 , 20x . New style back then , dang scopes went from receiver /barrel mount external adjust to being mounted all on the receiver ! Who would of thunk ?

 

[Depart123]

All my 36x fixed are on with windage on left . I have had them that way for 40 plus years . Why try to fit your hand between the turret and loading port ? Why move your position when needing to change windage ? I'm right handed shooting from bench . On the older scopes , there's equal elevation and windage in the scope . Open turrets are a bit high and block the ejection ports .
You could change turret tops , the only dif would be windage direction would be opposite ( as if we need to look at those anymore ) .
It works , it's faster , no turret being hit by your hand or ejected shell ( if you eject shells and don't just extract )
Don't know about ar scopes

Maybe it was a couple of old benchresters helping the young fellow out?

 

[savagedasher]

Was cleaning up at the range the other day while the guys were changing targets. You know, using the leaf blower to clean the concrete walkways and such. While walking back to the firing line I passed one of the shooting tables where there were two older (older than me and I am sneaking up on 70) gents giving instructions to a new AR shooter on how to adjust his scope. They were shooting 50 yards to get it sighted in. While I passed I heard one of them say, move it 15 clicks to the left. This caught my attention. So I looked over at them. First thing I noticed was they were adjusting the windage on the left side of the scope. Huh!! The light came on. The scope was on the rifle Backwards. As politely as I could, I informed them of the problem. Oh my. One of the older gents throws his hand up in the air and shouts, it's a spectator sport now. Then says he's so mad he needs to take a walk to calm down. While he is gone I convince the new shooter to turn his scope around, because I truly believe that windage adjustment is an industry standard and it's always on the right side of the scope. His scope was a Millett AR. Any how, as I am walking away the hothead comes back and mumbles something to me. I told him he had no business teaching anyone, anything about shooting. He went for another walk. Next time I will not try and help. I will just stand there and laugh.

I’m a old guy
And if I was helping someone and the told me to turn the scope around I would of be upset also
Would that mean the scope was on backwards lol
Happy new year

 

[Ggmac]

More than myself were changing receiver mounted scopes that way . It makes it so much easier . Don't forget our 1000 yd cartridges were magnums ( usuall 7 mmx300 Weatherby ) or 30-338 .

 

[Rustytigwire]

Was cleaning up at the range the other day while the guys were changing targets. You know, using the leaf blower to clean the concrete walkways and such. While walking back to the firing line I passed one of the shooting tables where there were two older (older than me and I am sneaking up on 70) gents giving instructions to a new AR shooter on how to adjust his scope. They were shooting 50 yards to get it sighted in. While I passed I heard one of them say, move it 15 clicks to the left. This caught my attention. So I looked over at them. First thing I noticed was they were adjusting the windage on the left side of the scope. Huh!! The light came on. The scope was on the rifle Backwards. As politely as I could, I informed them of the problem. Oh my. One of the older gents throws his hand up in the air and shouts, it's a spectator sport now. Then says he's so mad he needs to take a walk to calm down. While he is gone I convince the new shooter to turn his scope around, because I truly believe that windage adjustment is an industry standard and it's always on the right side of the scope. His scope was a Millett AR. Any how, as I am walking away the hothead comes back and mumbles something to me. I told him he had no business teaching anyone, anything about shooting. He went for another walk. Next time I will not try and help. I will just stand there and laugh.

Finally looked at Leupolds at lgs. Wanting one of the new low mag variables for use on my AR. My vision makes open sights difficult to use.
I take it over by the front door to peer down the street. Looks pretty strange. I looked near and far, pretty clear but well i just dont know bout this. 1.5x is lowest setting.
Clerk says "well what do you think?" Oh the reticle is kind of fat but first time i have seen the internals of one like that.
Yeah we see that once in a while, smart guy looking backwards to check out the internal construction. Well I just busted out laughing. Jokes on me guys, alot on my mind, just wasnt paying too much attention. It was a great deal more conventional when viewed through the correct end. Don't tell anyone....

 

[rayporter]

I mount my p dog scopes with the knob on the left side. it sure is easy to adjust without moving the gun.

 

[K22]

I've seen just about every shooting mistake at the range but unless it's a safety issue I keep my mouth shut unless a fellow shooter asks for help.

PS: However never saw the one you described.

 

[chop house]

on with windage on left . I have had them that way for 40 plus years

i too mount my scopes that way when possible. then i repeat to myself, over and over, "Up is left and right is up". works for me, for single loading with low mounted scopes....

 

[rebeltex]

Having trouble visualizing this.
If windage is on the left then elevation is on the bottom?

 

[Knotwild]

I would have just told him to turn the rifle around.

 

[savagedasher]

Having trouble visualizing this.
If windage is on the left then elevation is on the bottom?

Think of it this way all scopes are mad for right hand people

 

[bichettereds]

Having trouble visualizing this.
If windage is on the left then elevation is on the bottom?

I think he just had his scope rotated counterclockwise 90 degrees from the orientation the scope manufacturer intended. So the windage turret was now on the top being used for elevation and the elevation turret was on the left now being used for windage.

 

[savagedasher]

I think he just had his scope rotated counterclockwise 90 degrees from the orientation the scope manufacturer intended. So the windage turret was now on the top being used for elevation and the elevation turret was on the left now being used for windage.

Many of left hand people mounted scope that way

 

[dolek]

Crosshairs/dot don't have feelings...they really don't care. I learned long ago to only give advice when asked,also realized back then I don't know everything.

 

[sidecutter]

Having trouble visualizing this.
If windage is on the left then elevation is on the bottom?

no what he is saying the elevation turret was on the left and windage was on the top
u would still turn the turrets the same out is up, in is down
right move left and left is right

 

[savagedasher]

It was common for left hand people to do that .
Scopes back in the day had equal adjustments both vertical and horizontal
Not like today’s scopes