Anyone has ordered a barrel from lothar-walther.com?

[njhunter]

I send a inquiry from lothar-walther.com yesterday to order a finish barrel yesterday, but no repsonse. Anyone has ordered a barrel from lother-walther? How to order a barrel from there?

 

[AckleymanII]

Patience, call and talk to them.

 

[LHSmith]

Unless they have changed their ways, they have perhaps the worst record in the industry when it comes to living up to their delivery promises.

 

[msinc]

Brownell's stocks some of their barrels...might want to check and see of they have the one you need. No waiting if they have it. You do know that LW barrels are made of a much harder steel and with other barrels you should get about 40-50 chambers out of a reamer {if handled properly}...where you might get 4 or 5 with LW barrels. That said, the ones I have used all shot great. Good luck.

 

[1shot]

My riflesmith told me if I bought one he wouldn't chamber it. He stated the steel was so hard it was tough on the reamers.

Lloyd

 

[sidecutter]

My riflesmith told me if I bought one he wouldn't chamber it. He stated the steel was so hard it was tough on the reamers.

Lloyd

i was told the same thing

 

[hogpatrol]

Is this a troll? I think so.

 

[njhunter]

Thanks for everyone! I called them yesterday, a sales rep answered, he was very nice and said he would go check their inventory and reply back to me in an hour, but I haven't heard him so far...

I don't buy a blank barrel, I am ordering a pre thread short chambered mauser 98 large ring barrel, The only thing I need to do is that using finish reamer to set headspace.I have checked midwayusa and brownell, they don't have in stock, I saw LW has what I want in their website.

I guess I have to be patient and see what's going on. I used to purchase this kind of barrel from midways and brownell, this is the first time to try LW

 

[njhunter]

Patience, call and talk to them.

I did what you said. called again yesterday, same guy picked up the phone, very nice man, I got my barrel shipped yesterday afternoon.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[mr.kirk]

I bought an ar barrel from them about 7-8 years ago. No problems.

 

[butchlambert]

LW got rid of their problem guy. They will sell a lot more barrels now. The LW50 SS barrels machine like 17-4 PH. Until you learns to machine them, you will say a lot of bad words.

 

[micmac]

My dear friend and savant in the field of firearms and trigger design Robert would say something like this:

Except for Lothar Walther all others use similar corrosion-resistant steels (the term Stainless is misleading for the 400 series steels), and it is typicaly the AISI/ASTM/SAE 416R
SS 416 is the material of choice for barrel makers not due its qualites as barrel steel but due to its machineability as it alloyed with sulphur .A blessing for the machinists, but handicap to the qualities one should normally expect from a barrel steel: 416R is Quite soft,exibits higher than desired friction ,is prone to pitting… But it polishes so well ...LOL

Lothar Walther uses a different alloy, AISI 420 (EuroNorm X20Cr13 ,W/Nr 1.4021), with slightly higher Carbon (0,20% as opposed to 0;12% of the 416) and Chromium content (13% as to 12% of the 416), but no sulphur addition, which possess all the properties one could ask for a barrel steel.Steel is manufactured to LW specs by a single crucible Boehler-Udderlohn from Austira .

LW ‘savoir-faire” is unique, and they are the only ones capable of using this alloy for barrels in industrial capacity a process mastered over multiple generations. LW50 -> 420 It might well not be much liked by smiths who have to machine it for chambering and threading, but, quality-wise, the result is certainly worth the effort and shouldn't be a problem for a competent machinist

Does this make a better shooting barrel? Not on account of material. Longer lasting? the answer is ‘yes’….
Lothar Walther is probably the worlds largest manufacturer of precision barrels by a considerable margin.

Material properties:
-The 416, supplied in annealed condition, is about:
Brinell Hardness : 170
Rm: 630MPa
Modulus of Elasticity: 200GPa
Thermal conductivity: 25W/m-k

-While the 420 is:
Brinell Hardness 205
Rm: 725MPa
Modulus of Elasticity: 200GPa.
Thermal conductivity: 25W/m-k

 

[butchlambert]

My dear friend and savant in the field of firearms and trigger design Robert would say:

Except for Lothar Walther all others use similar corrosion-resistant steels (the term Stainless is misleading for the 400 series steels), and it is typicaly the AISI/ASTM/SAE 416R
SS 416 is the material of choice for barrel makers not due its qualites as barrel steel but due to its machineability as it alloyed with sulphur .A blessing for the machinists, but handicap to the qualities one should normally expect from a barrel steel: 416R is Quite soft,exibits higher than desired friction ,is prone to pitting… But it polishes so well ...LOL

Lothar Walther uses a different alloy, AISI 420 (EuroNorm X20Cr13 ,W/Nr 1.4021), with slightly higher Carbon (0,20% as opposed to 0;12% of the 416) and Chromium content (13% as to 12% of the 416), but no sulphur addition, which possess all the properties one could ask for a barrel steel.Steel is manufactured to LW specs by a single crucible Boehler-Udderlohn from Austira .

Their ‘savoir-faire” is unique, and they are the only ones capable of using this alloy for barrels in industrial capacity a process mastered over multiple generations. LW50 -> 420 It might well not be much liked by smiths who have to machine it for chambering and threading, but, quality-wise, the result is certainly worth the effort and shouldn't be a problem for a competent machinist

Does this make a better shooting barrel? Not on account of material. Longer lasting? the answer is ‘yes’….
Lothar Walther is probably the worlds largest manufacturer of precision barrels by a considerable margin.

Material properties:
-The 416, supplied in annealed condition, is about:
Brinell Hardness : 170
Rm: 630MPa
Modulus of Elasticity: 200GPa
Thermal conductivity: 25W/m-k

-While the 420 is:
Brinell Hardness 205
Rm: 725MPa
Modulus of Elasticity: 200GPa.
Thermal conductivity: 25W/m-k

So, what does it mean to the shooter? You don't see them used in competition here. You will also find very few that will chamber them for you.

 

[micmac]

Barrel per Barrel LW will outlast most others in terms of accurate barrel life but you know its hard to benchmark barrels to many variables in barrel wear. Hard to say for you guys in US with so many barrels of various manufacturers out there and LW not being that readily on stock and lots of people sticking to cut rifled barrels now days, here in Europe ,LW (button rifled) barrels represent mayority of barrels used in all forms of competition. As they are readily availible in most calibers and configurations and consistent enough in quality . Competitors in Europe also use chrome moly match barrels from Lw with great succes in much larger numbers than in US.But you might see slow resurgence of CM barrels even in US .