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Anyone familiar with Tangent Theta scopes?

Think they bought (or reorganized from) Premier Reticles.

The 5-25X56mm is a good scope, for tactical.

Don't know if you'd want one for F-class tho.

Haven't seen/heard much out of them yet, other than basically the same scopes previously branded as Premier.
 
They are building scopes for the tactical market and they are outstanding for that purpose but a couple of features of their scopes make it difficult to use in F-Class mainly:

  • Reticle in the first focal plane, great when ranging on an unknown distance range poor for known distance shooting as the reticle will look larger as the power goes up and may obscure too much target.
  • 25 power is the max zoom and most people find that it is nice to be able to crank well above that when the conditions allow.

wade
 
This little write-up might help explain a bit about them: http://www.primalrights.com/forum/review.php?a=8858

The GenIIXR reticle is very fine, and thus does not cover much of the target at all. I know several people using Premier 5-25's in F-class, and they really like the reticle. The TT scopes will have the same reticle, but the scope itself is all around better.
 
Thanks for the replies. I read a longish article about them in the current issue of "Sniper" magazine. I saw their logo on the Canadian team members in Raton. I knew their current offerings were not directed at the F-class or long range crowd, but I'm thinking they may have something to offer for that at some point in the future. The intent of the thread was to find out if that would occur and when would it, if it did.
 
Good Day

I am one of those sponsored team members. From memory the initial push is to focus on MIL/LEO applications and then at some point in the future build one for F class. (Read) there was a round table about what we thought would work and wanted but simply discussions. I can ask if you are really interested BUT as the scope line is so new i would suspect we have a little while longer before they come out with a F class model.

Trevor
 
Trevor60 said:
Good Day

I am one of those sponsored team members. From memory the initial push is to focus on MIL/LEO applications and then at some point in the future build one for F class. (Read) there was a round table about what we thought would work and wanted but simply discussions. I can ask if you are really interested BUT as the scope line is so new i would suspect we have a little while longer before they come out with a F class model.

Trevor

Yes. I am interested. If they carry their neat turret system over to a long range F-class-capable scope, retain the illuminated reticle (very useful for old geezers like me shooting in early morning situations at black targets using a black reticle) and sport a fine (non-busy) reticle, I would be definitely interested. I know what I would like to have, let's see if they can get it close enough for my taste. My current NF NXS 12-42X56 is doing fine for now. But my eyes only grow older.
 
wwbrown said:
Reticle in the first focal plane, great when ranging on an unknown distance range poor for known distance shooting as the reticle will look larger as the power goes up and may obscure too much target.

People seem to get hung up on the reticle appearing to change size when they change the magnification, but for some reason they seem to forget that the target is also changing size. In an FFP scope, the reticle changes size relative to your eye, but always stays the same size relative to the target. It will cover the same amount of target at every magnification, that is the point of FFP.

Its in the SFP scope that the reticle actually covers more or less of the target when you change the magnification. Think about it: you go to half the magnification. Now your target appears half the size, but your reticle has not changed size. It now covers twice the area of the target. In the FFP scope, if you go to half the magnification, your target appears half the size, BUT so does the reticle. It does not cover any more or any less of the target at any magnification.

Reticle thickness on high-end FFP scopes is usually between 0.025 and 0.035 mils. Thats 0.086 to 0.120 MOA. Some FFP scopes have 0.05 mil reticles. This is usually found on cheaper scopes or ones with Horus reticles. The Gen2 XR reticle in the Tangent Theta (Premier Reticles) 5-25x56 is on the low end at 0.025 mil (0.086 MOA), meaning the reticle will only cover ~0.9" of the target at 1000 yards (at every magnification setting). That is finer than many of the dots in SFP target reticles. Many of those are around 0.095-0.125 MOA at 40x. They will cover more of the target, the more you zoom out, and less of it the more you zoom in.
 

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