any one with IWI Tavor experience

[bheadboy]

I have read great things and bad things (trigger, exhaust gas)-

Accuracy a question? 18" version

any of you on board try one? have a comment?

Bob

 

[joshb]

I wandered into the "bull pup" market a few years ago and picked up an FS-2000. I found it to be a fairly accurate, ergonomic neat little piece of engineering. Since that "hole" in my collection has been filled, I only looked at the Tavor., when it hit the market. Seems like a nice piece with good reviews. I wouldn't expect great accuracy or a good trigger pull on any bull pup, but that's not what they're for, anyway.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

I have read great things and bad things (trigger, exhaust gas)-

Accuracy a question? 18" version

any of you on board try one? have a comment?

Bob

I have seen two failures. Triggers can be hit or miss. But you can, like anything, get a replacement. But the two failures that I have seen were around the 5000 round mark, they needed to be sent back. Accuracy is like everything else. Sometimes you get a jewel, sometimes you get a military grade weapon.

 

[bheadboy]

Doc,

Thanks, looks like, consider possibility of replace trigger, and maybe accurate, 5000 is a good number compared to others I have read bout

Bob

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

Here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYzwUsnryTo

 

[RemingtonAI]

I have owned a Tavor for about 2 years now and have put thousands of rounds through mine with zero issues. If you look at the origin and development of the rifle, the data and test results speak for themselves. This rifle is bomb proof tough and extremely reliable. Now a word on the complaints that have been raised. They're insane...just kidding but they are pretty wacky. Everyone complains about the trigger. If you are intending on squeezing the highest level of accuracy out of the rifle then you need to consider alternative rifle designs. The Tavor is a very mission specific rifle and every single aspect of the rifle has been geared towards defensive use in close quarters. For this reason, a match grade trigger is the last thing you, or your teammates (for special operations) want to have. That being said I find is pretty easy to hit IPSC sized targets at 600 yards with my factory trigger, and a non magnified Aimpoint Pro backed up with an Eotech G33 3x magnifier. At 100 yards I get about 1 1/2 MOA simply using a forward grip as a front rest on a concrete bench and unsupported in the rear. That's pretty good for not even attempting to support the rifle in a manner that would allow for optimal precision.
The gas in the face is a non issue if running unsuppressed. If using a suppressor, it does vent some gas through the ejection port cover, opposite the side it is ejecting from. Since the rifle is set up to eject from either side, the off side has a cover on it. They made an aftermarket cover that has a rubber gasket for those who are using a suppressor, and it entirely eliminates all gas in the face. I have seen claims of loose accuracy, but to be fair, most people shooting Tavors are not precision rifle kind of guys and do not understand or employ the basic fundamentals of marksmanship. When you apply the basics you get incredible results with this rifle.
Ergonomics of the Tavor are absolutely wonderful for defensive situations. Slicing the pie in corners with such a short rifle is a world of difference compared to conventional rifle length platforms. Its feel and handling when shooting is something that can only be described a "very sweet". Its recoil impulse is very unique due to its gas piston and the relocation of the entire system to the rear. The fact that you can hold it straight out without strain with only one hand while having your offhand free is absolutely necessary for close quarters. If being used to defend the home, and the clearing is done by a lone individual, you must be able to open doors while still covering the portion of the room you have allowed to become visible. With a conventional length rifle the forward weight not only makes this impractical if not near impossible, but the length of the rifle if it was able to be held at ready position would place you further away from the door or corner making it harder to reach the handle, etc.

• These are some issues people address when using long guns for home protection or defense, when citing the advantage of using a pistol. The Tavor closes this gap, making possible with a rifle what is normally only possible with a handgun. These are just some opinions I wanted to share about the current discussions about the Tavor and my take on it. They also just announced the addition of a .300 blackout conversion which I cant wait to work up some custom loads for. Feel free to ask me anything about this great rifle. Jesse